I don’t disagree I was just going by squad numbers. Ashurst for me hasn’t shown anything other than been a solid second row for a while now. He has been quality for us but I can’t see him hitting that form of a few years ago again. He seems to have lost a yard of pace and instead of running those great lines he started bringing it back inside more central.

I agree the two best form SR are tanginoa and Batch. I honestly think Pitts is solid but that’s about it. Steady Eddie type player. Maybe less of a reflection on Pitts than Batchelor form but when Batchelor came in for Pitts he was running lines and making half breaks causing no end of problems. Defence seemed a lot stronger too.

Arona would probably be my shout for captain, as long as he was willing to do it. Leads by example and I don't recall ever coming away from a game thinking he'd given less than 100% - something that certainly cannot be said about everyone.

Westerman for me, having had plenty of time to watch re runs on Trin tv

what I did notice when Joe was on the field was the amount of talking and organising he was doing in the line, ok he’s not going to do 80 minutes but being a seasoned pro he has the experience and hopefully respect of others to be a leader.

That really surprises me.
He clearly has all the attributes you mention above but I've always thought of him as being a loose cannon off the field and not the one you want young players to follow.
If your opinion is otherwise then I would also say he deserves at least a role in the senior group.

No I won't, the forum is free for everyone to comment about the subject matter, people with lives been condemned unfairly is no small matter, but clearly you'll defend accusations and condemnation because you're unable or unwilling to look at the facts not the government lies.
If you don't like discussion of the topic subject, don't want a view that doesn't meet yours then simply state you'll stymie free speech, isn't that what your lot are about?

it's nothing to do with winding people up, it's opening people's eyes to the truth and defending those being accused/attacked. The government's own well hidden data tells you precisely what I've said, world leading scientists and researchers have sent their findings to WHO whom have accepted them because they've got nowhere to hide. WHO have even said lockdowns don't work and only lead to more harm, or is UNICEF and other charities lying when they say 130Million more people are in food poverty because of the reaction, are the cancer charities lying when they state tens of thousands more people will die from cancer with many tens of thousands more undiagnosed and will go through hell.

But people like you, the vast majority on here can only think one way, you're condemning players and have no clue as to whether they have an infection or not, and the likely scenario is they haven't and cannot pass on if they are because they are asymptomatic, or are you going to deny the science again regards that, even WHO have stated you cannot pass on a virus via aerosol method!
A positive test cannot infer infection, or are you going to argue against scientists around the world, if you don't know that suggest you look up the facts and actually listen to what Johnson, Hancock and PHE have said regards the massively high false positive rate.

Rather than wading in against people simply wanting to live their lives that presents no greater threat to anyone than if you are social distancing and wearing masks why not trouble yourself to look at the real unmolested science and data, or are you afraid to be wrong?
Clubs condemning players are cowards and typically clueless box tickers with no ability to even perform basic risk assessments using actual facts/data regards any potential threat. Masks are not even PPE according to the health and safety executive because they know full well that it's complete BS tokenism!
But whatever, keep slagging off players and others because you've no ability to understand what's actually happening and read some basic numbers/literature!

Yep because we all need our eyes opening by a conspiracy nut with all the scientific qualification of a giraffe..

The only tragedy is that there are people foolish enough to listen to no marks like you. Will you be happy when your snake oil salesman’s advice finally kills someone?

we're in lock down again becuase of folk like you that don't give a toss for others

do one

Can’t add anything to the last couple of comments, the guy has clearly got too much time on his hands!

Speaking of which, wouldn't it be easier for all concerned if you did not respond to him, that might save some time.

Wouldn't be a forum then, would it? I'm not being sarky but that seems to be forgotten at times. Twitter may be more your thing?

Forum
noun
1.
a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
"we hope these pages act as a forum for debate"

Wow you really have a problem if you carry that sort of stuff in your head, as for it being a forum, maybe you should remember that when replying to other posters opinion with your unnecessary insults, anything else you want to get off your chest while your at it.

I don't, shock horror I used google, not sure that's a problem.

Not insulted anyone, but then you don't get sarcasm or humour or an appropriate response to a certain kind of post do you