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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:40 pm  
Get Jeremy Smith back asap
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:42 pm  
no swearing on the forums thanks
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:43 pm  
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I think he can, it seems he's going through the motions and letting himself down along with the paying fans.

He is a better player than the Smith we've seen so far but imo only he can change that.


Were you at Leeds - genuine question?

I saw a different guy to the one who played against London and Castleford - and that is the problem - he is 2 different people! One is highly motivated and wants to run the show and the other is disintrested. If someone could figure out a way to get him up for every game, we'd have a star on our books, but it really seems that he struggles to get motivated for the 'smaller' clubs, and we're no way good enough to be able to do that as we are one of those 'smaller' clubs! :?
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:49 pm  
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Were you at Leeds - genuine question?

I saw a different guy to the one who played against London and Castleford - and that is the problem - he is 2 different people! One is highly motivated and wants to run the show and the other is disintrested. If someone could figure out a way to get him up for every game, we'd have a star on our books, but it really seems that he struggles to get motivated for the 'smaller' clubs, and we're no way good enough to be able to do that as we are one of those 'smaller' clubs! :?




No.

But i've seen enough of him to know he's a mystery, if he can get is head on he's quallity, time will tell i guess.
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:18 pm  
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Were you at Leeds - genuine question?

I saw a different guy to the one who played against London and Castleford - and that is the problem - he is 2 different people! One is highly motivated and wants to run the show and the other is disintrested. If someone could figure out a way to get him up for every game, we'd have a star on our books, but it really seems that he struggles to get motivated for the 'smaller' clubs, and we're no way good enough to be able to do that as we are one of those 'smaller' clubs! :?


Probably the most crazy thing I've ever posted but...

I'm not a Sykes fan but he's been around a while and has played S/O. Maybe and it's just a maybe a more mature player like him may be able to read Smith better and help keep him motivated?

I could be way of but I think Smith needs an older head than John. John not a bad lad but he's as lacking in experience as most of our team are. If not Sykes perhaps Collis or anyone with a decent brain and a bit of maturity - I'm usually against playing players out of position but we need Smith to fire so desperate measures. :CURTAIN:

Also considering Smith illness he is two different people and I'm not taking the mick - all the medication in the world won't take away all the demons. I admire his attempts to fight it and he can do way more than me and I'm OK so they tell me but deep down it must affect him. I'm really not trying to be insensitive but it really can't help the guy in a high pressure sport - or at least as a non expert I'd have thought not.
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:34 pm  
I will add my thoughts on this one.

All good halves have these attributes

1. Leadership
2.Good passing game
3.Good running game
4.Good kicking game
5.Good defense.

From what I have seen Smith dosn't have the full box of tricks . He has skill No2 but he is average or poor in all the other areas. He may do some good things from time to time in certain areas of the game but we could do with a better player than him to take us forward.
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:39 pm  
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I will add my thoughts on this one.

All good halves have these attributes

1. Leadership
2.Good passing game
3.Good running game
4.Good kicking game
5.Good defense.

From what I have seen Smith dosn't have the full box of tricks . He has skill No2 but he is average or poor in all the other areas. He may do some good things from time to time in certain areas of the game but we could do with a better player than him to take us forward.



You missed 6. must speak with a aussie twang.

Like most of our overseas visitors it takes them time, usually a season, like Richards for example who nearly got shipped out, if we are willing to gamble it may pay off but imo its risky.

Did he sign for 1 year or 2.
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:48 pm  
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You missed 6. must speak with a aussie twang.

Like most of our overseas visitors it takes them time, usually a season, like Richards for example who nearly got shipped out, if we are willing to gamble it may pay off but imo its risky.

Did he sign for 1 year or 2.


Just the 1 - and given that we have so many on longer contracts and areas that need fixing he may struggle to get beyond that!
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:51 pm  
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Just the 1 - and given that we have so many on longer contracts and areas that need fixing he may struggle to get beyond that!



Well i'd be suprised if another team wanted him based on what we've seen so far, i hope he comes good and earns another contract but somehow i don't see it happening.

Get your finger out Smithy and prove the doubters wrong, PLEASE.
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Re: Wood V John : Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:04 pm  
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Were you at Leeds - genuine question?

I saw a different guy to the one who played against London and Castleford - and that is the problem - he is 2 different people! One is highly motivated and wants to run the show and the other is disintrested. If [b]someone could figure out a way to get him up for every game[/b], we'd have a star on our books, but it really seems that he struggles to get motivated for the 'smaller' clubs, and we're no way good enough to be able to do that as we are one of those 'smaller' clubs! :?



How about "frame yourself, or you're gone". It's usually effective in most workplaces.
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