Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:21 am  

Does the TV gantry on the West terrace qualify as being big enough? Points wise…
I know we’re not going to be on tv (unless challenge cup game) but the IMG scores will be totalled up again straight after the grand final next year for the 2025 season and this area qualifies for points.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:11 pm  

dboy wrote:

So next year, our score will go up due to the new stand coming online and hopefully some extra easy points for LED boards (would be crazy not to take that easy win).

Our on-field score could go down a slight, but equally, a Championship win/1995 Cup win, will mean our score increases.

Here's a key one though - our centralised income will go down next year = we'll receive less from the RFL (centralised funds), than we would if we were still in SL. Plus Matt Ellis is clearly pumping in more that Carter et al did.

The net result of that is, we will score MORE on finances (revenue as a % of non-centralised funds), than we have previously.

I'll have to guess the figures, but probably safe to say that the RFL funding was 50% of our revenue = that scores 0.3.

If the changes result in the RFL funding being only 30% of our revenue, our score jumps to 0.75.

So potentially an extra 0.45 points that we couldn't have achieved if still in SL. (Though this probably suffers from the 3 year averaging???).

Is this what the previous owners alluded to when they suggested "this year is a good year to go down"?

Sadly i don’t think that will make a difference just yet. Next years income won’t actually count on the score for 2025. It’s based on the average over the previous 3 accounting periods and our next period end is next month, with the results filed August next year. It also means that whilst the new stand will get points for the facilities aspect it won’t make any difference yet in the turnover/income section. That will come for 2026 which is why by then we should be in a good place to get a grade A if we can have a bit of success on the pitch.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:25 pm  

Seen a few clubs clubs show the breakdown of their score, wonder if Trinity will do the same.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:53 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Sadly i don’t think that will make a difference just yet. Next years income won’t actually count on the score for 2025. It’s based on the average over the previous 3 accounting periods and our next period end is next month, with the results filed August next year. It also means that whilst the new stand will get points for the facilities aspect it won’t make any difference yet in the turnover/income section. That will come for 2026 which is why by then we should be in a good place to get a grade A if we can have a bit of success on the pitch.

2024 Most definitely count on all fronts, it will be 2022/2023 + 2024 for all bands in the criteria, Hence IMG have already intimated that next years gradings won't be released until after the grand finals, so to take the result in to hand for the grading for 2025, they have also said they will be updating clubs with an interim grading mid season.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:35 pm  

financialtimes wrote:

2024 Most definitely count on all fronts, it will be 2022/2023 + 2024 for all bands in the criteria, Hence IMG have already intimated that next years gradings won't be released until after the grand finals, so to take the result in to hand for the grading for 2025, they have also said they will be updating clubs with an interim grading mid season.

Yes it will be judged on the accounts published in the Augusts of 2022, 2023 & 2024. The 2024 ones will cover the period 1st December 2022 to 30th November 2023. Hence those will have this seasons central distributions on them and won’t have any income from the new stand as it hasn’t been up and running yet. The advantages dboy mentioned will actually come in the accounting period 1st December 2023 to November 2024. These will be published August 2025 and as such will count towards the 2026 season. We’ll get the benefit, we’ll just have to wait a bit longer.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:52 pm  

Yes, that looks correct:

"This is for the three accounting (periods) prior to the current year i.e. in 2023, this would be an average of 2020, 2021 and 2022."

That's for this year's rankings, so next year it's 21/22/23.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:47 pm  

https://twitter.com/AaronBower/status/1 ... 0065040681 13.52 with the new stand apparently. Would put us 10th I think.

https://twitter.com/AaronBower/status/1 ... 0065040681 13.52 with the new stand apparently. Would put us 10th I think.

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:02 pm  

9th I think just a gnats above Huddersfield

Plus if that is correct what jurno claims, only 1.5 PTS from A. LED boards to come and I am sure Matt will already have plans to get over the winning line

Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:06 pm  

Prince Buster wrote:

9th I think just a gnats above Huddersfield

... and with the aspects pushing Salford. Appreciate we will lose in other areas. All being well we should be in the top 12 clubs next year.

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Re: IMG Announce Proposed Criteria for Super League 2025 : Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:52 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

... and with the aspects pushing Salford. Appreciate we will lose in other areas. All being well we should be in the top 12 clubs next year.

I don't think we'll lose much in other areas.
We can potentially improve our performance points and attendance score won't go down below a 3k average over 3 years.
Income might reduce but to be honest if we are winning we may sell more merch anyway and as said, the income we are judged on for next year has already happened.

The key is to only be there for one year. 2 years in champ would hurt a lot of scores.