: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:30 pm  

He's impressed me so far because he is different in style to most wingers, and he seems strong enough. He has that quick-start that Robinson used to have, where he would be away quickly over the first ten yards, and that is the important part as it breaks the line and catches out slow defences. I'm not sure he's that quick over 100m, as I'm not sure he has genuine pace as per Peter Fox or Dave Halley, but he will be troublesome for the opposition. I prefer him to the plonk-it-down-from-two-yards-out Gardner, who will be redundant when Gidley packs it in.

Good luck to him. His main difficulty will be the extent to which other sides exploit the height issue, and maybe he will need Pat Richards to cover for him on the kicks, because that will be the obvious ploy from opposition kickers.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:39 pm  

vastman wrote:

Give it a rest, that is a ludicrous statement even by your standards. Penny or Calderwood were loads better prospects, if you listened to the Wire and Leeds fans of a similar blinkered nature. In sport the next best thing usually ends up as tomorrows does anyone remember such and such.

Best prospect in the last decade

You are Phil Clark I want my fiver.

Its called an opinion just because you do not agree with it do not get on your high horse!!

I feel he is the best Wing prospect we as a country have had since Jason Robinson and his play is backing that up. You mention Penny and Calderwood but both need the service always have always will due to his style Ainscough is capable of making a break out of any position on the field.

Also to state Penny and Calderwood who were not near the first team with there respective clubs at the same age as Ainscough, let alone being 4 clear in the try scoring charts in a pretty poor team, were better prospects is an odd one.

Still it suits your style to spout garbage if it means you get to enhance your rep as a legend on here.

Could i just ask on a serious point how you think most wingmen could be potentially the next Offiah or Robinson?


Thats the thing about opinion and posting on here, some of us can back them up with facts and reasoned debate, when it comes to players of other clubs you cannot.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:44 pm  

Penny's problem was that he became over-hyped too quickly. From what I have seen of Ainscough, I think he is a better rugby player, whereas Penny is just quick and elusive. I could imagine Ainscough scoring with two men in front of him, whereas Penny and Calderwood would both need a clear field ahead.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:49 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Penny's problem was that he became over-hyped too quickly. From what I have seen of Ainscough, I think he is a better rugby player, whereas Penny is just quick and elusive. I could imagine Ainscough scoring with two men in front of him, whereas Penny and Calderwood would both need a clear field ahead.

For the reasons stated above i think Vasty is just now clutching at straws. Ainscough is clearly a more rounded player than Penny or Calderwood, and both were older than Ainscough is now when they came onto the scene.

Ainscough is playing in a poor Wigan side, is walking the try scoring charts and has proven his ability against the best players in the world at his age group. He is clearly in my opinion the better prospect, the reasons above i feel justify this. I would like to see Vasty justify why Calderwood and Penny are/were better prospects in his opinion. Sadly i feel it will fall on deaf ears like my question as to why he thinks most wingmen have the potential to be as good as Offiah and Robinson.

Sadly Vasty sees my name next to a post gets his knickers in a not and starts digging the holes he makes for himself deeper by the post.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:56 pm  

vastman wrote:

Give it a rest, that is a ludicrous statement even by your standards. Penny or Calderwood were loads better prospects, if you listened to the Wire and Leeds fans of a similar blinkered nature. In sport the next best thing usually ends up as tomorrows does anyone remember such and such.

Best prospect in the last decade

You are Phil Clark I want my fiver.

Out of interest, who would you say have been/are better prospects in this postion?

EDIT: Just noticed the same question, already asked.

Re: Ainscough : Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:14 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

This kid must be the find of the season. How Noble can expect us to believe he was gonna play carthorse carmont in his place is ridiculous. How many tries is he gonna total now Wigan are hitting a bit of form? Score double what you let in, seems a pretty good ratio to me.
Any chance of a lone deal once Carmont pushes him back into the reserves?

He would've had 6 if Carmont had played aswell.

Re: Ainscough : Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:17 pm  

RB wrote:

He would've had 6 if Carmont had played aswell.

Aye! And me auntie would've been me uncle if she'd had a pair ............

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:35 pm  

jonh wrote:

Seems to me jonh you are one of a small section of Wigan fans who have bought into this big club syndrome, where you feel you always have to be 'bigger than thou', and are unable to credit other clubs/players and are always looking for someone in Wigan colours to compare them to.

Edited for equality!

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:37 pm  

vastman wrote:

You talk for other posters do you - I love the arrogance - I really don't care what you or your school yard chums think, grow up or live with it.

In case you struggle with the English language (as you seem to), of course I talk (sic) for other posters as I am one! In addition, I fully understand that you don't care what other people think. That is the definition of an over-inflated ego. QED.

: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:23 pm  

I was with Jonh when he first saw Ainscough v AIS at Wakefield. You could see then that he had the making of a top class winger.

He actually reminds me more of Michael Hancock who plaoyed for Brisbane Broncos. I've had a bit of stick on the Wigan board because I have been critical (over) of Ainscoughs defence in particular his reading of kicks. However he is a genuine talented kid, who if he continues to progress will be an International in the not too distant future.

What are your thoughts on the other Wigan youngster, Sam Tomkins? I thought he was superb yesterday, very quick and elusive and a brilliant tackler for one so slight in build.