I liked Aydin but I don’t see what all the fuss is about him.

Yeah he might have played a few games last season but he hadn’t been someone who glaringly stood out in the games I saw him play.

We’ve signed better.

Not sure there is a fuss. I don’t think he ever going to threaten the England team but I do think he will have a solid SL career over the next 8-10 years and no shame in that if he does.



He was one of the standout props at academy level because of his work ethic which bodes well for him.



It’s all about perspective I guess.



We sign a kid who has never played against adults from Australia and some people get very excited but then don’t see the benefit of bringing back a youngster who is a proven SL level player.

I don’t know why because it definitely happened or do you live in a parallel world.

No, I mean I can't believe we had a football manager.

Sorry about that we did apparently but he was new to this particular job title.

Players had to move on to balance the books and keep the club safe , as I remember at the time of Batchelers departure it was looking more and more likely that we were heading out of super league and so through his agent he got the best deal he could to safeguard himself and his young family , and that was HKR , and we move on . . A raft of Trin players left around that time under the management of Harrison’s company, (don’t forget Murphy ) Whether he fell out with MC is neither here or there to me as Carters hand were tied and the future of the club took precedence over any players at that time . Move forwards two years and things may be a whole lot different, but water under the bridge now . Crofts and Shaw need to kick on this season or so and show Powell that they are worth their respective shirts when we get back in super league.

Just to be clear, we didn't want to invest as much in Shaw or Croft as they thought they were worth. Rightly or wrongly.

It's not that they didn't want to invest.

That's bang on is that. And the fact that they both ended up back with us in the Championship after everything that got said probably shows that there weren't any other clubs that thought they were worth it either. I thought their agent made himself look a bit of an idiot to be honest and if I was the parent of a young player I'd be advising them to stay clear of him.

Well let’s get it right then, we offered them more money to come back!

Think the issue with them struggling to find other clubs on a more permanent basis revolved around the fact the club would have been due a transfer fee due to their age.

Croft would be a free agent next season as he's 23 this year.

True but he wasn’t when he left first time around hence the reason he ended up in Australia.



Big year for him next year, probably career defining for him.

I agree. I felt last season that Championship was probably more his level, but a year working with Shenton and he could be a different player.