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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:01 pm  
Sounds like LCC are doing well this morning. NOT.
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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:04 pm  
Thanks for that IA.
Keep up the good work.
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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:05 pm  
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Sounds like LCC are doing well this morning. NOT.

It does seem they need to go back and synchronise their objection, and not contradict themselves within the hour.
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BillyRhino wrote:
So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>

IA mode off. :wink:

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:23 pm  
The story of the morning would appear to be an argument over how many jobs are actually likely to be created at Newmarket. The figures produced by Wakefield say it is between 1468 & 1986! LCC barrister, having earlier used a figure of 3000 jobs to dispute total car parking number on the site and make the argument that parking was lacking, then disputes these numbers!!! He gets Wakefield to admit that the minimum number of jobs that would be created is 1468. I'll post that again, the minimum number of jobs is 1468!!! Andy Wallhead admits this is a minimum number but WMDC calculations show that they predict an actual number of 1986 jobs and that is the number they are stating is more realistic! Surprise, surprise, LCC disagree that this is a realistic figure!

So, the good news is Leeds only think they are blocking 1468 jobs... Keith Wakefield must be so proud!
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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:24 pm  
Out of curiosity, what date is the PI over? What date would you expect to find out the result of said inquiry and finally should you get the green light to commence building, when do you anticipate to be able to start?

No trolling, just genuine interest.

Its a sign of the times that i have to add the above line to get a sensible answer these days :ASK:
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BillyRhino wrote:
So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>

IA mode off. :wink:

Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:46 pm  
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Out of curiosity, what date is the PI over? What date would you expect to find out the result of said inquiry and finally should you get the green light to commence building, when do you anticipate to be able to start?

No trolling, just genuine interest.

Its a sign of the times that i have to add the above line to get a sensible answer these days :ASK:


Ends on 23rd December, decision expected from SoS in March/April next year (the inspector's report is due on March 17th 2012). The decision from the SoS is the green light, work on preparing site could start straight away but obviously it might take a couple of months before it does. Reserved Matters approval will be required for Stadium (or any other elements), but that is all, so I think actual stadium build will commence latest 4th quarter of 2012. This ties in nicely with opening for start of 2014 season.
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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:01 pm  
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The story of the morning would appear to be an argument over how many jobs are actually likely to be created at Newmarket. The figures produced by Wakefield say it is between 1468 & 1986! LCC barrister, having earlier used a figure of 3000 jobs to dispute total car parking number on the site and make the argument that parking was lacking, then disputes these numbers!!! He gets Wakefield to admit that the minimum number of jobs that would be created is 1468. I'll post that again, the minimum number of jobs is 1468!!! Andy Wallhead admits this is a minimum number but WMDC calculations show that they predict an actual number of 1986 jobs and that is the number they are stating is more realistic! Surprise, surprise, LCC disagree that this is a realistic figure!

So, the good news is Leeds only think they are blocking 1468 jobs... Keith Wakefield must be so proud!


I think if I was Leeds CC I would be asking to see this Barristers qualifications as he seems like a first rate numpty. Admittedly, he doesn't appear to have much of a case to work with, but on that basis surely best advice would have been to remove the objection rather than wasting tax payers money
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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:11 pm  
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I think if I was Leeds CC I would be asking to see this Barristers qualifications as he seems like a first rate numpty. Admittedly, he doesn't appear to have much of a case to work with, but on that basis surely best advice would have been to remove the objection rather than wasting tax payers money


Don't blame the barrister. It's his job to represent his client, with whatever means he has at his disposal. Blame the person who contracted him in the first place, and committed so much public money in what appears to be just an attempt to show his electorate he's worthy of another (lucrative) term in office.
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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:14 pm  
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Tricky2309 wrote:
I think if I was Leeds CC I would be asking to see this Barristers qualifications as he seems like a first rate numpty. Admittedly, he doesn't appear to have much of a case to work with, but on that basis surely best advice would have been to remove the objection rather than wasting tax payers money


Don't blame the barrister. It's his job to represent his client, with whatever means he has at his disposal. Blame the person who contracted him in the first place, and committed so much public money in what appears to be just an attempt to show his electorate he's worthy of another (lucrative) term in office.


Depends what his initial advice was after reviewing the case. If he told Leeds CC the case was weak and they pressed on with it fair enough. However, if he didn't give them advice on the strength of their case then IMO he has not done his job properly.
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Re: The Public enquiry outcome : Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:18 pm  
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Depends what his initial advice was after reviewing the case. If he told Leeds CC the case was weak and they pressed on with it fair enough. However, if he didn't give them advice on the strength of their case then IMO he has not done his job properly.


If you think there's a chance of winning it, you go for it. In this sort of case, where the matter has been called to a PI, there's always a chance.
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