Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:23 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

The ownership of our stadium was given up quite a few years ago by Richardson.

The club thought all their birthdays had come at once when Newmarket was brought to the table, unfortunately they were royally stitched up by a shyster developer & a Council without the will to intervene, for whatever reason.

What I find really amusing is when supporters of other clubs, Widnes, Leigh, Huddersfield, Wigan & probably Cas in the near future go on about B.V. yet all the facilities were gifted to them, you'd think the supporters had invested their hard earned to hear them talk, they just got lucky.

If the leader of Wakefield Council wasn't a Cas fan, I wonder if the whole outcome would have been different.

After endless threads on here it has been suggested many time that taking the Council to court would be an option, albeit an expensive one, it would probably be cheaper to hire a hit man (JOKE)

Frankly I'm tired of the whole fiasco, the rhetoric, the secrecy & the downright outlandish suggestions.

I was looking at the proposition of a Trinity 51% stake in Owl Lane from a Dewsbury point of view.

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:00 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

After endless threads on here it has been suggested many time that taking the Council to court would be an option, albeit an expensive one, it would probably be cheaper to hire a hit man (JOKE)

Frankly I'm tired of the whole fiasco, the rhetoric, the secrecy & the downright outlandish suggestions.

The more that happens and the deeper you dig, this whole affair begins to have similarities to the Doncaster Council scandal. Dony council were arrogant back then and thought they were untouchable. Box and co are showing the same arrogance

I really hope that somehow we get funds together and take this lot to court and go straight for their throats. I am hoping one day they will get what is coming to them.

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:26 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

The more that happens and the deeper you dig, this whole affair begins to have similarities to the Doncaster Council scandal. Dony council were arrogant back then and thought they were untouchable. Box and co are showing the same arrogance

I really hope that somehow we get funds together and take this lot to court and go straight for their throats. I am hoping one day they will get what is coming to them.

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Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:11 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

The more that happens and the deeper you dig, this whole affair begins to have similarities to the Doncaster Council scandal. Dony council were arrogant back then and thought they were untouchable. Box and co are showing the same arrogance

I really hope that somehow we get funds together and take this lot to court and go straight for their throats. I am hoping one day they will get what is coming to them.

The issue with taking the council to court is 1.) its expensive and I doubt WTWRLFC have the funds to do it, and 2.) if we do do it, the cost of fighting the case will also be expensive for WMDC and will need to divert funds from elsewhere to fund the fight, once the other 98% of the WMDC population who don't give a flying rats backside about Wakefield Trinity see that their services are being cut to fund a fight over a stadia for a sports team, any public sympathy is likely to disappear petty quickly.

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:22 pm  

Dreadnaught wrote:

The issue with taking the council to court is 1.) its expensive and I doubt WTWRLFC have the funds to do it, and 2.) if we do do it, the cost of fighting the case will also be expensive for WMDC and will need to divert funds from elsewhere to fund the fight, once the other 98% of the WMDC population who don't give a flying rats backside about Wakefield Trinity see that their services are being cut to fund a fight over a stadia for a sports team, any public sympathy is likely to disappear petty quickly.

More worrying is the likelihood that Mr Box would spend anything/everything to win "at all costs".
People in that type of position aren't bothered about the public purse, only in their own agenda and of course, staying in power.

Do you really think that any political leader would put other people before themselves ??

Many set off with good intentions but, they rarely last.

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:34 pm  

Dreadnaught wrote:

The issue with taking the council to court is 1.) its expensive and I doubt WTWRLFC have the funds to do it, and 2.) if we do do it, the cost of fighting the case will also be expensive for WMDC and will need to divert funds from elsewhere to fund the fight, once the other 98% of the WMDC population who don't give a flying rats backside about Wakefield Trinity see that their services are being cut to fund a fight over a stadia for a sports team, any public sympathy is likely to disappear petty quickly.

Just to put a few things straight.

If there is to be any legal action then that action will not be brought by Wakefield Trinity it would be brought by the agrieved party which is the Wakefield & District Stadium Trust , Remember this is not a private stadium, it is a Community Stadium for the people of Wakefield which was supported by 15,000 people who signed the petition of support. Wakefield Trinity will merely be a tenant and lease the stadium from the Stadium Trust as can other sporting bodies in Wakefield.

The Planning Inspector recommended to the Secretary of State that over 200 acres of land be taken out of Green Belt on strict condition that the developer provide the people of Wakefield a Community Stadium as he believed there were "special circumstances" that warranted it.

This is not about Wakefield Trinity although some like to make it that way, its about the citizens of Wakefield being promised a Community Stadium by a Developer with a small contribution from the Council and at present getting nothing. Its about fairness and bodies delivering what they promised in return for substantial financial gains which they have received.

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:44 pm  

Sandal Cat wrote:

Just to put a few things straight.

If there is to be any legal action then that action will not be brought by Wakefield Trinity it would be brought by the agrieved party which is the Wakefield & District Stadium Trust , Remember this is not a private stadium, it is a Community Stadium for the people of Wakefield which was supported by 15,000 people who signed the petition of support. Wakefield Trinity will merely be a tenant and lease the stadium from the Stadium Trust as can other sporting bodies in Wakefield.

The Planning Inspector recommended to the Secretary of State that over 200 acres of land be taken out of Green Belt on strict condition that the developer provide the people of Wakefield a Community Stadium as he believed there were "special circumstances" that warranted it.

This is not about Wakefield Trinity although some like to make it that way, its about the citizens of Wakefield being promised a Community Stadium by a Developer with a small contribution from the Council and at present getting nothing. Its about fairness and bodies delivering what they promised in return for substantial financial gains which they have received.

In that case then Sandal Cat, could the SoSs office take the lead on the action and therefore fund it from central Gov't whilst at the same time adding huge weight to the seriousness of the case

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:49 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

In that case then Sandal Cat, could the SoSs office take the lead on the action and therefore fund it from central Gov't whilst at the same time adding huge weight to the seriousness of the case

Don't know, I'm not a lawyer but I know a man who is. I think the SoS will be a bit brassed off if he granted planning consent on condition that the people of Wakefield received a Community Stadium and they get squat.

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:56 pm  

What I would like to know is, why aren't the people who have been voted in to represent the Community of Wakefield, I.e our MP's taking this up and questioning when these Community Facilities are going to be delivered.
If the Local Authority aren't in charge of local planning issues then who is?

Re: Ground : Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:11 pm  

Sandal Cat wrote:

Don't know, I'm not a lawyer but I know a man who is. I think the SoS will be a bit brassed off if he granted planning consent on condition that the people of Wakefield received a Community Stadium and they get squat.

Surely the only bit to argue at the minute would be whether the great white montrosity should be part of the UU. But even if it was the trigger point for the stadium build wouldn't have been hit so they technically haven't done anything legally wrong with that bit. I forget the exact figures but isn't the newcold build 30-odd thousand square meters? So even if we won a case all it would ensure would be that there would be another 20-odd thousand built rather than 59999. Lets be honest they are never going to break that total figure whatever the outcome. Legal action might give a few people a bloody nose but it won't result in a community stadium up there, so is it worth the risk and expense?