: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:04 pm  

vastman wrote:

Sorry to disagree again but -

The fact that it is Cas and he may be up for it makes him a liability. Brough does not play well when he let's his emotions take control. Cas and there fans know just how to wind him up.

Brough didn't play well against Saints or Leigh IMHO, he made Grix look a fool and Grix didn't need any help against Saints.

Centre is not Martins favoured position anymore, he is the best half back at the club and he knows it.

Sam is fit as far as I know.

Cas are not a VERY good side, Saints and Leeds are.

Brough is a fine player and very gifted but he lacks the cool head required to beat Cas at their place, the team is far better balanced with Drew and Martin pulling the strings.

It will be brave of JK to drop Brough but it wouldn't surprise me. FWIW that's how I see it.

How come you say that we are not a very good side then ?

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:05 pm  

vastman wrote:

Has Latu done anything this year, I have seen nothing from him so far. In fact if I were to keep Brough I'd drop the non performing Latu and play Brough at 9 interchanging with Drew.

For me it is quite clear that the club has 'bulked' Latu up considerably (so he can slot into the 13 role)........he carrying much more muscle that last year, and as a result he has lost some of his zip!

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:06 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

How come you say that we are not a very good side then ?

Playing some good rugby. But would not say very good, would say decent start to season. Let's face it you have been lucky

Very good sides are like what Vasty says Leeds and Saints IMO. Very good is a strong term to use for Cas and even for Wakey!

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:07 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

How come you say that we are not a very good side then ?

I'm sure he simply meant that you're not in the same class as Leeds or Saints, not that you haven't got a good side, as you clearly have. Just not a VERY good side.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:08 pm  

RebelRebel wrote:

Brough and Rooney were our most effective half back pairing last season. Drew and Martin have been the most effective pairing this season so far. There's only room for one dictator.

Don't see where you get the bit about Brough not having the cool head to beat Cas, though. He took them apart in Wales last year.

Agreed he was brilliant, if he does play let's hope he can play like that again.

Tell you what it is great to have a hard time selecting the team.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:09 pm  

Sandal Wild Cat wrote:

Still no big Frank though. Really want to see him run out, but i guess he will get his chance soon, when JK thinks the time is right.

Glad to have you back BD & TM!

Lets just hope that Brad and Danny have learnt to play together since last season,as when they have played seperatly they have been great so far but last season when playing together they seemed to play against each other.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:20 pm  

I agree with Vastman about Brough. He is a very hotheaded player and lets his emotions rule his head. When he first came to Wakefield he was focused on playing Rugby and got on with the game.

Against Leigh for instance he was more concerned with trying to get a cheap shot or a big hit on one of their players who had roughed him up the wrong way.

He needs to focus on his rugby and do the basics well and let everything else take care of itself

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:26 pm  

RebelRebel wrote:

Brough and Rooney were our most effective half back pairing last season. Drew and Martin have been the most effective pairing this season so far. There's only room for one dictator.

Don't see where you get the bit about Brough not having the cool head to beat Cas, though. He took them apart in Wales last year.

Yes he did but Cas were beaten by the team TBF. Don't know if you saw the last Cas game at BV (you being an ex-pat) but Brough got totally wound up and was substituted towards the end. He let them get to him and it was really obvious.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:33 pm  

vastman wrote:

Yes he did but Cas were beaten by the team TBF. Don't know if you saw the last Cas game at BV (you being an ex-pat) but Brough got totally wound up and was substituted towards the end. He let them get to him and it was really obvious.

No I didn't, so I'll take your word for it. Whatever the arguments about Brough, though, it's really about which combination works best, and I think we agree that Drew and Martin have shown so far that they are first in the pecking order for the time being.

: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:44 pm  

RebelRebel wrote:

No I didn't, so I'll take your word for it. Whatever the arguments about Brough, though, it's really about which combination works best, and I think we agree that Drew and Martin have shown so far that they are first in the pecking order for the time being.

Correct, it's not about Brough TBF, he is a good player, it's that for me Martin and Drew just do more for us on this seasons form.