Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:04 pm  

TRB wrote:

Anyone can put a new application on the land removed from GB - the B8 land - without it having to contribute to the stadium. The land with PP which remains in GB is different.

I didn't know if I'm being a bit thick here but the thing they're building now was that part of the original plans.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:20 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

I didn't know if I'm being a bit thick here but the thing they're building now was that part of the original plans.

No - if it was it would have been submitted as a reserved matter.

It was submitted as a new application - we knew that much - as the original PP only allowed for up to 18m high, where as this is 42m high. The bit we didn't know is that it was excluded from contributing towards the Unilateral Undertaking - the 106!

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:41 pm  

TRB wrote:

No - if it was it would have been submitted as a reserved matter.

It was submitted as a new application - we knew that much - as the original PP only allowed for up to 18m high, where as this is 42m high. The bit we didn't know is that it was excluded from contributing towards the Unilateral Undertaking - the 106!

Shows how much I know then.

Tbh I'm not sure how something that high got past planning. I just remember those very nice architects drawings of how the whole area was going to turn out and there didn't seem much room for anything else, obviously many things have changed since then.

Anyway mate keep up the good work, seems an absolute minefield.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:29 pm  

TRB wrote:

No - if it was it would have been submitted as a reserved matter.

It was submitted as a new application - we knew that much - as the original PP only allowed for up to 18m high, where as this is 42m high. The bit we didn't know is that it was excluded from contributing towards the Unilateral Undertaking - the 106!

Unfortunately I cannot see many takers for 18 m high warehouses these days, I reckon the new cold one is likely to be the norm, especially now the precedent has been set .

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:31 pm  

Sorry, I posted this on the Newcold thread when it should have been on this one.

What the hell were the WMDC planning department doing allowing this to go through on a separate planning application in the full knowledge that it was originally intended as part of the wider Community development. Are they so thick and incompetent that they didn't twig what the developer was doing or were they complicit in this right from the off!

After hundreds of thousands of pounds were spent on a Public Inquiry and thousands of people campaigned for or against this development did the WMDC Planning Dept just wave this through without raising the question or seeking advice. Don't give me that they had no choice because the new application was within the rules. We all know that the site and planning permission for it would never have become available without having ridden on the back of the Community Sports element. Certainly the Secretary of State wouldn't have made his decisions without the Sports facilities.

Someone asked why we thought WMDC and Peter Box were at least partly at fault, well look no further than this 'waving through' of the new Newcold application almost in secret and without so much as a muff about how it was circumventing the S106 contract.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:53 pm  

I've got to admit as times gone on, especially when all the business about S106 stuff came out, I haven't followed what's happening at Newmarket as close as others.I also had no idea about this Newcold not being part of the original plan.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:25 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

I've got to admit as times gone on, especially when all the business about S106 stuff came out, I haven't followed what's happening at Newmarket as close as others.I also had no idea about this Newcold not being part of the original plan.

That's the point - neither did we. Whether we were negligent or misled......

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:11 pm  

TRB wrote:

That's the point - neither did we. Whether we were negligent or misled......

I haven't been on this site much this year or talked about Newmarket. and just presumed I was out of the loop but that's shocking mate.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:59 pm  

And nice to see Sheffield Eagles now moving into their new 10,000 capacity ' community ' stadium for the start of the 2016 season !!

Unbelievable.

Re: The City of Wakefield Community Stadium : Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:02 pm  

Wildcatfan wrote:

And nice to see Sheffield Eagles now moving into their new 10,000 capacity ' community ' stadium for the start of the 2016 season !!

Unbelievable.

going to be left behind, Wakefield council are clueless about progress