Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:00 pm  

At the end of the day here, Allgood plus one more who ever it may be is only replacing Anderson and Scruton. Hirst replaced Yates

Likewise with Moore, with him likely to be going, and all we are doing is replacing him with another hooker.

Bringing in another back rower, we had Howarth and Walton. Not to mention earlier in 2016, Shulver.

I don't actually think with the amendments to the above mentioned, with the inns and outs, our cap spend there would particularly increase by much.

Also, if Anthony Tupou doesn't come back, then there is cap space freed up there too.

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:09 pm  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

At the end of the day here, Allgood plus one more who ever it may be is only replacing Anderson and Scruton. Hirst replaced Yates

Likewise with Moore, with him likely to be going, and all we are doing is replacing him with another hooker.

Bringing in another back rower, we had Howarth and Walton. Not to mention earlier in 2016, Shulver.

I don't actually think with the amendments to the above mentioned, with the inns and outs, our cap spend there would particularly increase by much.

Also, if Anthony Tupou doesn't come back, then there is cap space freed up there too.

Thats one way at looking at it.

You could also go further and say Hall and Owen replaced by Grix and Caton-brown. would suggest that's a break even but more like a saving.

So all in all , other than bringing in Williams very little investment.

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:12 pm  

On Twitter Chris Chester has been quoted as saying we're close to signing an English forward, and looking at a few more props on the market, let the speculation begin.

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:17 pm  

Really happy with the signings so far I know we still have a few to get without having the biggest pot in the world but my trust is fully in Chester n carter to get it right with what we have

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:18 pm  

vastman wrote:

And who's paying for all that?

presumably we will be saving moore, fifita, anderson, howarth, tansy, scruton, hall, yates, shelver, and owens (1o out ) wages which would go a long way

plus the increase in sl payments

so far signings are caton brown, hirst, williams, grix possibly all good 5 in even if we sign english prop its still 6

so unless they are on double money .........

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:15 pm  

I am amazed how some people know our financial position, I have never seen any published accounts, all I know is that we have the lowest spend and are debt free. I would guess our spend as probably decreased even further because according to some on here several of the players that have left were high earners and I don't see those that are currently coming in would merit top salaries plus there are less of them.
I would suspect that on average we probably have one of the highest season ticket prices but I am sure someone will know the answer.

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:22 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I am amazed how some people know our financial position, I have never seen any published accounts, all I know is that we have the lowest spend and are debt free. I would guess our spend as probably decreased even further because according to some on here several of the players that have left were high earners and I don't see those that are currently coming in would merit top salaries plus there are less of them.
I would suspect that on average we probably have one of the highest season ticket prices but I am sure someone will know the answer.

Probably highest price with lowest revenue in total to club ....

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:24 pm  

Kirmudgeonly wrote:

presumably we will be saving moore, fifita, anderson, howarth, tansy, scruton, hall, yates, shelver, and owens (1o out ) wages which would go a long way

plus the increase in sl payments

so far signings are caton brown, hirst, williams, grix possibly all good 5 in even if we sign english prop its still 6

so unless they are on double money .........

Doesn't work like that. You will have to factor in what I imagine will be a much bigger deal for Jowitt and Johnstone from what they were on this time last year. Also Mazive and Batchelor have moved up, yep they will be cheap but it adds up.

Williams, Allgood and Caton Brown are pricey signings and Grix and Wood won't come cheap.

For what it's worth I think we will sign like this....

If we don't keep Fafita then yep another prop looks likely.

Moore you could argue for a like for like replacement.

If we can let A Tupou lose then we will probably get a S/R.

However that for me is where it stops and there are a lot of ifs and buts in that.

I think the key this year is quality and we have to accept that includes TJ and MJ who really you need to treat as new high quality SL signings.

That's how I see it and why I think there won't be many more signings - this squad already has a lot more quality than last year but it comes at a cost and that is a smaller team.

That said I reckon there may be enough left in the kitty for some mid season signings which wasn't the case last season.

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:24 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I am amazed how some people know our financial position, I have never seen any published accounts, all I know is that we have the lowest spend and are debt free. I would guess our spend as probably decreased even further because according to some on here several of the players that have left were high earners and I don't see those that are currently coming in would merit top salaries plus there are less of them.
I would suspect that on average we probably have one of the highest season ticket prices but I am sure someone will know the answer.

See my post and see how wrong you are.

Re: Mitch Allgood : Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:07 pm  

vastman wrote:

Doesn't work like that. You will have to factor in what I imagine will be a much bigger deal for Jowitt and Johnstone from what they were on this time last year. Also Mazive and Batchelor have moved up, yep they will be cheap but it adds up.

Williams, Allgood and Caton Brown are pricey signings and Grix and Wood won't come cheap.

For what it's worth I think we will sign like this....

If we don't keep Fafita then yep another prop looks likely.

Moore you could argue for a like for like replacement.

If we can let A Tupou lose then we will probably get a S/R.

However that for me is where it stops and there are a lot of ifs and buts in that.

I think the key this year is quality and we have to accept that includes TJ and MJ who really you need to treat as new high quality SL signings.

That's how I see it and why I think there won't be many more signings - this squad already has a lot more quality than last year but it comes at a cost and that is a smaller team.

That said I reckon there may be enough left in the kitty for some mid season signings which wasn't the case last season.

Yep agree with that. On the bigger deal for Jowitt and Johnstone, can they expect bigger deals, say at the end of the season on the back of their performances, or do they get them when they extend their contracts? say like Johnstone did a bit back, I presume he'd have got a rise then when other Clubs were sniffing around.