Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:40 am  

Big lads mate wrote:

I've watched them but I wasn't impressed by most of the team never mind Ellis , like I've mentioned before if they were as good as people say they would've continued in the SL

I think Andy Ellis has left Fev.

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Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:01 am  

And whether he was good then or not, that was a long time ago.

Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:19 am  

PopTart wrote:

And whether he was good then or not, that was a long time ago.

The same applies to Kyle Wood then?! Pretty sure he was the one coming on for Aiton and doing a good job running out of dummy half, but that was 5 or 6 years ago, I doubt he's any better for his stint at Hudds, but we will see. Like many have said, it's a real shame about Moore, with him fully fit and his head in the right place, with the pack we have now he would have been ideal to create the platform for the halves and the speedy threequarters we have, but hey ho I suppose we knew when we signed him he was always likely to implode both on and off the field at some point.

Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:46 am  

PopTart wrote:

And whether he was good then or not, that was a long time ago.

For clarity - I wasn't suggesting him as an option; more a reflection on the lack of specialists in that role, and the fact the despite some wailing and gnashing of teeth on this board about his quality, he's never been seen again in SL.

Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:15 pm  

Never understood Ellis - he was one of those who looked fine to fans but didn't seem to have the same appeal to coaches.

Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:42 pm  

Woods played consistantly well in a very good top four Huddersfield side, so can no way be likened to players such as Ellis.

Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:43 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

The same applies to Kyle Wood then?! Pretty sure he was the one coming on for Aiton and doing a good job running out of dummy half, but that was 5 or 6 years ago, I doubt he's any better for his stint at Hudds, but we will see. Like many have said, it's a real shame about Moore, with him fully fit and his head in the right place, with the pack we have now he would have been ideal to create the platform for the halves and the speedy threequarters we have, but hey ho I suppose we knew when we signed him he was always likely to implode both on and off the field at some point.

If Moore's head was in the right place he'd still be at Saints or in the NRL.

Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:49 pm  

Didnt we sign allgood before we released A.Tipou though..thought even though its close season we would of had to release Tupou before we could attempt to sign allgood....

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Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:54 pm  

Wildmoggy wrote:

The same applies to Kyle Wood then?! Pretty sure he was the one coming on for Aiton and doing a good job running out of dummy half, but that was 5 or 6 years ago, I doubt he's any better for his stint at Hudds, but we will see. Like many have said, it's a real shame about Moore, with him fully fit and his head in the right place, with the pack we have now he would have been ideal to create the platform for the halves and the speedy threequarters we have, but hey ho I suppose we knew when we signed him he was always likely to implode both on and off the field at some point.

As Beagle says, Wood has been playing at another Super League club in the time between. Ellis has played at a lower level, so the comparison to what he was like in Super League is now a long time ago for Ellis but not for Wood.

Re: Wakefield pack : Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:02 pm  

PopTart wrote:

As Beagle says, Wood has been playing at another Super League club in the time between. Ellis has played at a lower level, so the comparison to what he was like in Super League is now a long time ago for Ellis but not for Wood.

Correct, Wood is a quality SL hooker, I don't get the issue with the lad - I thought he was pretty good first time he was with us, where this alleged defensive weakness comes from is anyones guess. Finn is slower than ever but he is hugely experienced in the hooking role and combined with Wood should be pretty potent.

Yes I would like to have kept Moore as No1 hooker but these two are both SL capable and will do just fine - In Wood and Miller we have two very quick players whilst Finn and Williams provide the brains, that's plenty of options IMHO- but hey this is the Trinity forum and we need to panic about something and prepare the scapegoats.