FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Match officials
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3629No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 15 200420 years308th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 23 16:2428th Mar 23 17:08LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Dewsbury
Signature
Image

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:28 pm  
Who would you replace Chester with then Egg Banjo?

And with the injuries we had last year which coach anywhere in the world in the last 100 years would have won silverware with the squads we were fielding ?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach17982
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 24 201114 years58th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Nov 24 12:1125th Nov 24 16:02LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:03 pm  
Egg Banjo wrote:
I support the club financially, more so than many. I buy from the club shop regularly and I have Trinity TV to watch games back. I just decided to refuse to go and watch the games live while Chester is in charge, and I'm far from the only one who has made the same decision.

As I've said, I support the club and will continue to do so as I have for so many years, but I'm not supporting the current coach.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you can do whatever you want with your time and money.
However, apart from last season, one where we were decimated by injuries, Chaster's record is as good as any coach we've had in the SL era and in my time of watching, just about as good as any coach we've had.

I'm happy to forgive what happened last season, although it was definitely squeaky bum time during our last game against London and I'm also happy to wait until we have something close to our first choice 17 on the park this time around.

Unless Trinity get a really wealthy owner (no disrespect to MC here), who is happy to lump £1000,000 + every season to buy success, realistically, where do you think Trinity should be in the current 12 club top flight ?

Just to get some perspective, it may be worth looking at our historical record over the last 40 years :IDEA:

Using this barometer, I would suggest that Chester is doing ok.

I'm also intrigued as to why you would take on Trinity TV and spend in the club shop and yet not go to games because of who is currently coaching the side.
Surely it's all Wakefield Trinity ? just because it's on Trinity TV, its still the same coach, staff and club owner ??
RankPostsTeam
International Star5139No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 02 201114 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Jul 21 12:383rd Jul 21 12:38LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:20 pm  
Egg Banjo wrote:
I support the club financially, more so than many. I buy from the club shop regularly and I have Trinity TV to watch games back. I just decided to refuse to go and watch the games live while Chester is in charge.
Can't argue with that, although I'm not sure what you can buy on a regular basis, scratch cards maybe?.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1538
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 27 20178 years245th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Oct 24 17:2912th Dec 23 11:35LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:17 pm  
little wayne69 wrote:
Can't argue with that, although I'm not sure what you can buy on a regular basis, scratch cards maybe?.


I'm not loaded and the kit is always released around Christmas time. So my relatives get shirts etc for Christmas and then I usually buy shirts/polos/hoodies over the subsequent months. I've got Trinity TV because I paid for the year before I decided not to back Chester at the games, and I always put into the youth structure
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2953
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 01 20159 years161st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Nov 24 21:1525th Nov 24 19:19LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
The sunny South (of Wakefield)

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:18 pm  
What worries and annoys me about match officials, particularly James Child is that they are regarded by Ganson and the Rugby League as infallible and can do no wrong. If a coach or club criticise them they are punished. Players can be charged with bringing the game into disrepute but bad officials don't appear to be viewed in the same way. THEY ARE NOT GODS (even though James Child has the right initials), and the games hierarchy has to recognise there are good refs; there are bad refs and there are b****y terrible refs.

As mentioned elsewhere on the "Child" thread; why can't there be a system where after a game each club could put three questions each to the referee and then throw open the floor to journalists and let them have a question session.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1538
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 27 20178 years245th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Oct 24 17:2912th Dec 23 11:35LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:39 pm  
I don't think it would be right to question incidents there and then in public after the match, the chances are that the official won't fully remember it, and the coaches will still be angry about whatever decision they feel was against them. Better for all parties to go away and re-watch the game as it often becomes clear why a call was made in a particular way on watching it over
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3629No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 15 200420 years308th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 23 16:2428th Mar 23 17:08LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Dewsbury
Signature
Image

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:02 pm  
The problem with punishing refs for mistake is they are in such short supply anyway...

There definitely is a system in place to drop officials for mistakes or poor performances...I used to regularly speak to one of the best touch judges in super league and remember one morning seeing him and he was absolutely gutted that he’d made a wrong call on tv and had been dropped to the championship the following weekend...

The major problem for me is consistency...I can accept the odd wrong calls as all refs will make mistakes...they’re human...just like players will make mistakes...hate to see where they penalise one team for say an offside, or a ruck infringement and then totally ignore the other side doing it like the offside we got against us...fine, yes, we’re offside penalise us but don’t then go the entire half and not penalise the other team once when they were offside countless times...
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3087
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 13 20186 years49th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Nov 24 17:4524th Nov 24 13:32LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Behind the Sticks
Signature
We're all Trin aren't we?

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:05 pm  
Egg Banjo wrote:
I don't think it would be right to question incidents there and then in public after the match, the chances are that the official won't fully remember it, and the coaches will still be angry about whatever decision they feel was against them. Better for all parties to go away and re-watch the game as it often becomes clear why a call was made in a particular way on watching it over


That's a fair point.
However, they are not accountable at all.
There should be something on place following the game - the next day or the day after - for the refs and coaches to meet to discuss decisions.
They shouldn't be seen as bombproof.
After all, they will retain their job regardless - players and coaches won't.
RankPostsTeam
International Star5667
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 21 201114 years163rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Nov 24 13:4725th Nov 24 13:47LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:12 pm  
Egg Banjo wrote:
I don't think it would be right to question incidents there and then in public after the match, the chances are that the official won't fully remember it, and the coaches will still be angry about whatever decision they feel was against them. Better for all parties to go away and re-watch the game as it often becomes clear why a call was made in a particular way on watching it over

But how many times do we watch Sky games and Trinity tv and see incidents that the ref missed that Stevie Wonder could have seen. While ever there’s a shortage of officials they will answer to no one.
RankPostsTeam
International Star140No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 06 201311 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
15th Oct 20 20:447th Oct 20 21:51LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Match officials : Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:58 pm  
Well he will have to answer to the paying customer because I won't go if he's the referee just like it put me off going last night
PreviousNext

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Ground Improvements
Redscat
186
14m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40782
35m
Film game
Boss Hog
5726
36m
Pre Season - 2025
Whatamidoing
187
40m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
201
41m
IMG Score
Bullseye
82
42m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
49m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63258
Recent
Salford
karetaker
47
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
23s
Film game
Boss Hog
5726
34s
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
38s
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
201
42s
Castleford sack Lingard
Another Cas
16
44s
Salford placed in special measures
financialtim
105
48s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
leeds owl
20
1m
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
1m
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
1m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40782
3m
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
3
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
The Avenger
35
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
47
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1023
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
631
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1357
England's Women Demolish The W..
1184
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1423
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1208
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1468
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2210
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2457
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2021
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2263
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2729
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2154
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2232
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7m
Ground Improvements
Redscat
186
14m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40782
35m
Film game
Boss Hog
5726
36m
Pre Season - 2025
Whatamidoing
187
40m
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
201
41m
IMG Score
Bullseye
82
42m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
49m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63258
Recent
Salford
karetaker
47
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
23s
Film game
Boss Hog
5726
34s
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
38s
2025 Recruitment
Bullseye
201
42s
Castleford sack Lingard
Another Cas
16
44s
Salford placed in special measures
financialtim
105
48s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
leeds owl
20
1m
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
1m
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
1m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40782
3m
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
3
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bullseye
2
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
The Avenger
35
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
47
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1023
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
631
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1357
England's Women Demolish The W..
1184
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1423
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1208
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1468
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2210
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2457
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2021
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2263
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2729
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2154
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2232


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!