bren2k wrote:
I don't think sixtogo has said anything that warrants being silenced - his original post is quite clearly an attack on the underhand tactics of the developer rather than anyone involved from the ST; that said, it's quite difficult to be critical of the process without being perceived to be being critical of the people representing the club and the supporters within that process.
I actually think he's reading the situation about right - the machinery of local government is virtually impenetrable at the best of times and despite the claims of transparency and accountability, officials will use it against you to get what they want - and they'll usually succeed. When Colin Mackie showed his hand, it became abundantly clear that there was to be no stadium, and that view was further compounded when Peter Box publicly shrugged his shoulders and said "it's nowt to do with us Guv."
I've got absolutely no faith that we'll get anything other than some kind of token hush-hush money to make improvements at BV; despite the Herculean efforts of TRB, IA et al, none of the people who can actually make it happen have shown any will to do so - as someone else has already said, the community, the club and the ST have been stitched up good and proper.
All that said - I do agree that the best approach until they've made that totally clear is to play along and not make any dramatic gestures; which is probably why TRB and co are the best people to be involved, rather than some of the more hot-headed posters on here.
Dear Bren
Don't agree with you, or not where this poster is concerned.
He has used any chance to point out his pet scenario - this is a scenario we are all aware of, not least TRB - it's also one of the more likely scenarios. No one hiding the truth.
So what and big deal.
SWAG and TRB's job isn't to accept defeat and push the negative, it's to be positive and active until such point as the battle is truly lost - it isn't yet as far as I can see.
TRB and IA may be fanatical in their belief that we deserve something but they are not stupid, they are not going to spend a large portion of their free time chasing the impossible, and to me that is the arrogance and insensitivity of "experts" like sixtogo that annoys. Though I have never suggested they can't post, but why should they post with impunity?
We are all fully aware that his pet scenario is a possibility, even a distinct one, however without the relentless efforts of TRB and IA it's an absolute certainty IMHO.
So rather than go on like some Uncle Mort character with pint truly half full, support the lads or better still help them. I mean with 25 years alleged service in planning you'd think he'd be chomping at the bit - I would, but unfortunately I only do print and design so my input isn't required for now.
Finally it's not for me to second-guess TRB's state of mind but knowing him as I do some of the barbs and negativity he gets will hurt. The guys are volunteers for heavens sake, one isn't even a Trinity fan and at the end of all this all they will either get a footnote in the clubs history or an ulcer and maybe some self satisfaction.
Thanks for your time.