Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:17 pm  

chissitt wrote:

The only bad publicity seems to be coming from certain fans on here determined to show the club in a poor light, the boards interest is towards the club.

You think it is a good look therefore I am sure you will be able to provide examples of this scenario at other clubs.
The board interest may be the club but this means we pay for two players, for what to make a point. If it was a good idea I am sure you will be able to provide example and I wait your reply.

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:20 pm  

dboy wrote:

I don't think it "looks" like anything more than it is - a club following the rules.

There are clubs chasing Shaw and Croft and they are trying to duck their responsibilities and get players that someone else has spent a lot of time and money developing, on the cheap.

This will all be resolved in due course.

No examples is still no examples because if it was so positive then it must surely have occurred many times in the past.
With regards Corey Hall did we apply the same when he left for Wigan or was there something different.

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:33 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

That’s the rub with running an Academy and clubs know this before they decide to run one. How much compensation did Trinity pay to Keighley Albion and Emly Moor ARLFC,s for the work they put into Jack and Isaac?

Up to £60,000 for Jack Croft?

I see Leeds let Jack Broadbent go to Castleford without any compensation

The RFL have a compensation scheme in place that rewards community clubs when players they hold the initial registration sign a professional contract, there are further payments made based on appearances, this includes championship and league 1 appearences.

On the situation of paying a player £15k for a first team contract, you'd be surprised how many 17-21 year olds on wakeys books are currently paid this amount, and in the past when the level was lower, and on all these facts I have personal experience on, one of the reasons I rarely post on here now, no longer a season ticket holder and even though I was a season ticket holder last season, only used it twice, I no longer volunteer to help the club in any form and am no longer a part of the pDRL and LDSL team set up, despite being pretty instrumental in helping both teams get up and running and coached/played in both teams.

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:35 pm  

It seems the obvious answer is for whoever want the two ought to pay up. It seems Trinity wanted to retain the pair, the offer was rejected, presummebly because there was outside interest. Whoever they are, they're the bad guys in this.

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:37 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

No examples is still no examples because if it was so positive then it must surely have occurred many times in the past.
With regards Corey Hall did we apply the same when he left for Wigan or was there something different.

Feel free to lodge a Freedom of Information request to the RFL.

They'll decline it of course, as these are private contractual matters.

I'm not sure what you are trying to prove.

When they happen, they are private (in this case it's an agent feeding the press - make of that what you will).

Also, you could argue that, if it isn't happening, the rule is working in preventing young players being poached by parasite clubs.

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:43 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

You think it is a good look therefore I am sure you will be able to provide examples of this scenario at other clubs.
The board interest may be the club but this means we pay for two players, for what to make a point. If it was a good idea I am sure you will be able to provide example and I wait your reply.

You've got me there squire, no I cannot provide examples of this scenario at other clubs, that's probably due to no other clubs fans' being interested in they're boards dealings with financial matters, and only applies to our club because of people like you trying to portray our BOD in a bad light. HTH.

L.ike yourself I don't have a clue what the directors intentions are regarding these two players, but I can hazard a guess that whatever it is it will have the clubs interest at heart and not simply to make a point, clearly you are also clueless otherwise you wouldn't be waiting for a reply from me

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:22 pm  

dboy wrote:

Feel free to lodge a Freedom of Information request to the RFL.

They'll decline it of course, as these are private contractual matters.

I'm not sure what you are trying to prove.

When they happen, they are private (in this case it's an agent feeding the press - make of that what you will).

Also, you could argue that, if it isn't happening, the rule is working in preventing young players being poached by parasite clubs.

The rule is not a problem the fact is that unless you can provide an example we are the only club who have applied it. I don’t need to provide any other examples of this scenario it is for you and Chissitt to do so because you don’t think it reflects badly on the club.
We apparently are quite happy to spend money we don’t have on two players to make some point which the rest of the league don’t feel the need to reciprocate.

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Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:54 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The rule is not a problem the fact is that unless you can provide an example we are the only club who have applied it. I don’t need to provide any other examples of this scenario it is for you and Chissitt to do so because you don’t think it reflects badly on the club.
We apparently are quite happy to spend money we don’t have on two players to make some point which the rest of the league don’t feel the need to reciprocate.

No one has said the club are going to do this at all.
You are taking a one sided article and trying to make it a fact.
I'm pretty sure MC will not waste money.

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:59 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The rule is not a problem the fact is that unless you can provide an example we are the only club who have applied it. I don’t need to provide any other examples of this scenario it is for you and Chissitt to do so because you don’t think it reflects badly on the club.
We apparently are quite happy to spend money we don’t have on two players to make some point which the rest of the league don’t feel the need to reciprocate.

Sorry but what don't you understand in that the club offered increased contracts in accordance with the rules. The players have rejected the tes the date has passed and they are now out of contract. The rules state not the club rules but the sports rules that in this situation the club must pay the players however if a club comes along they can sign them however there is compensation to be paid it's that simple. It's not about the ethics of it it's the rules of the game.

Re: Shaw and Croft : Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:32 pm  

dboy wrote:

I can assure you that Wakefield College do not pay a penny to any player.

I can assure you that for every player that attends and graduates college Trinity get an annual kickback that covers their wage