Re: Stadium and other issues : Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:15 pm  

FIL wrote:

financialtimes wrote:

For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time
As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom

So what you're saying FT, is that if we use wooden terracing with copper and steel barriers then we should be able to re-do the whole of the Western Terrace for £500...MC will love that

£500??
MC would want it for £450 FIL!

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:53 am  

financialtimes wrote:

For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time
As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom

The last bit is the vital bit for me.

I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now.

I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was.

It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired.

Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it.

It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:18 am  

vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602

vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:49 am  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602 You say that you think it will happen but, just how quickly could this actually happen and what has changed with the GH site. There were companies pulling out of that development not rushing to sign up ? The clock to the all NewSL is ticking and time is something that nobody has enough of.

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602 You say that you think it will happen but, just how quickly could this actually happen and what has changed with the GH site. There were companies pulling out of that development not rushing to sign up ? The clock to the all NewSL is ticking and time is something that nobody has enough of.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:39 am  

Not really any need to build new outlets, there's plenty of empty ones about as it is.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:51 am  

wrencat1873 wrote: Dunkirk Spirit wrote: vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602 You say that you think it will happen but, just how quickly could this actually happen and what has changed with the GH site. There were companies pulling out of that development not rushing to sign up ? The clock to the all NewSL is ticking and time is something that nobody has enough of. The IMG scheme now appears not to require all singing dancing new stadiums as they carry little weighing in the criteria points weighing, although the recent statement from IMG was a bit ambiguous on this point, so until next February, we have to wait and see.

wrencat1873 wrote: Dunkirk Spirit wrote: vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602 You say that you think it will happen but, just how quickly could this actually happen and what has changed with the GH site. There were companies pulling out of that development not rushing to sign up ? The clock to the all NewSL is ticking and time is something that nobody has enough of. The IMG scheme now appears not to require all singing dancing new stadiums as they carry little weighing in the criteria points weighing, although the recent statement from IMG was a bit ambiguous on this point, so until next February, we have to wait and see.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:11 pm  

I wonder if that’s because certain “grade A” clubs don’t own their own grounds.

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Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:37 pm  

Where does it say IMG aren't including stadia in their criteria?

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:46 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602 They can be as optimistic as they like, in fact they have no choice, but it won't happen, not in the next five years anyway. Even if by some miracle it did, it will take them at least another 2-3 years to get spades into the ground. Cas like ourselves were stiffed, and now it's in the lap of the gods. The only thing in their favour is at least they don't have Rodney Walker muddying the waters.

Dunkirk Spirit wrote: vastman wrote: financialtimes wrote: For the last 2 years I've been working for a large independent builders merchant, initially to set up their electrical wholesale division, but things changed once the business decided to take a massive change in how they trade and now one of my main duties include maintaining and updating the computer systems/sales and stock database, yes for the last 12 months prices increased across the board by around 20% (biggest increases were in timber & cement) however the last couple of months has seen this trend halt and in a lot of instances turned around, timber has come down by around 15% and copper and steel 10%, it looks like this will continue as a lot of major projects have been halted and there is now becoming a surplus materials, causing cash flow issues within the sector. Trinity maybe able to afford a few upgrades in 6 months time As for cas, it's pie in the sky stuff, they won't get a penny out of Axiom The last bit is the vital bit for me. I know for a fact that Trinity were getting nothing from YC until a series of lucky events took place. It was explained to me but I’ll be honest I didn’t totally get it then and I’ve forgotten now. I do know that the 106 agreement was a very small part of the deal, you scratch my back was. It’s hard to see at the moment how the Xscape site has the same immediate value as NM suddenly acquired. Truths is we got the 8 million (a huge sum) despite NM and the 106 not because of it. It took nearly 10 years for us to get to that point, Cas only started 2 years ago. I honestly wish them luck but this idea that they can lift 12 million from Axiom is a tragic delusion just as the idea that what we got from YC was a sell out. We were very lucky and very shrewd. Well it seems Castleford are very optimistic, and I think it will happen for them. http://e.leeds-live.co.uk/_act/link.php ... Id=8405602 They can be as optimistic as they like, in fact they have no choice, but it won't happen, not in the next five years anyway. Even if by some miracle it did, it will take them at least another 2-3 years to get spades into the ground. Cas like ourselves were stiffed, and now it's in the lap of the gods. The only thing in their favour is at least they don't have Rodney Walker muddying the waters.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:20 pm  

I know it’s not directly to do with trinity stadium but seems silly to set another thread up.

Salford council have just purchased the Salford stadium in a move that probably saves Salfords bacon. I think another club were wanting to buy it but likely would have meant Salford could have been looking for a new home. Council seem to have stepped in to protect Salfords future to a degree.

They will likely benefit from some low rent and some short term security at least. I suppose it will be interesting to see if there are extra scoring for owning your own stadia. I suppose if you own it then it’s the clubs asserts and adds value along with security.