Re: IMG scores : Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:53 pm  

Do they lose IMG points for such deficits?

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Re: IMG scores : Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:23 pm  

You get points for profits and income so yes and no.
You don't get the points so yes but from the report they probably never had those points.

Re: IMG scores : Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:25 am  

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/im ... next-month Mixed messages as Gledhill reckons clubs have got their provisional scores. Time will tell I suppose.

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/im ... next-month Mixed messages as Gledhill reckons clubs have got their provisional scores. Time will tell I suppose.

Re: IMG scores : Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:02 pm  

I’ve been thinking this for a few weeks but I’m going to put a prediction in.. Huddersfield to be out of SL 2025 or be 12th.

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Re: IMG scores : Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:42 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

I’ve been thinking this for a few weeks but I’m going to put a prediction in.. Huddersfield to be out of SL 2025 or be 12th.

There are only 14 teams with a chance of getting in the 12.
6 of them are safe with grade A.
I think Hull will lose their A but still be close at a 14.9ish.
We'll be next in my opinion.
Unless Salford have really stuffed up their finances they should be ok.

Which leaves Huddersfield, Toulouse, Leigh, Cas and Bradford for 3 places.
Leigh will get a small boost from league position.
Cas think they've achieve a stadium points boost.

So as you say that last place is down to Toulouse, Bradford and Giants.

The difficult for Giants is that the quick fix points come from stadium and Performance bonus points, and maybe fandom. The others are all averages over 3 years so an improvement is only a small boost to your points.

So, relevant to us is that Toulouse could really do with the points from Grand Final win. We need to make sure they are ours.

Re: IMG scores : Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:53 pm  

PopTart wrote:

There are only 14 teams with a chance of getting in the 12.
6 of them are safe with grade A.
I think Hull will lose their A but still be close at a 14.9ish.
We'll be next in my opinion.
Unless Salford have really stuffed up their finances they should be ok.

Which leaves Huddersfield, Toulouse, Leigh, Cas and Bradford for 3 places.
Leigh will get a small boost from league position.
Cas think they've achieve a stadium points boost.

So as you say that last place is down to Toulouse, Bradford and Giants.

The difficult for Giants is that the quick fix points come from stadium and Performance bonus points, and maybe fandom. The others are all averages over 3 years so an improvement is only a small boost to your points.

So, relevant to us is that Toulouse could really do with the points from Grand Final win. We need to make sure they are ours.

Will Leigh's league table improvement be enough to cancel out their loss of the Challenge Cup win points? Don't think it can, can it?

Re: IMG scores : Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:42 pm  

PopTart wrote:

There are only 14 teams with a chance of getting in the 12.
6 of them are safe with grade A.
I think Hull will lose their A but still be close at a 14.9ish.
We'll be next in my opinion.
Unless Salford have really stuffed up their finances they should be ok.

Which leaves Huddersfield, Toulouse, Leigh, Cas and Bradford for 3 places.
Leigh will get a small boost from league position.
Cas think they've achieve a stadium points boost.

So as you say that last place is down to Toulouse, Bradford and Giants.

The difficult for Giants is that the quick fix points come from stadium and Performance bonus points, and maybe fandom. The others are all averages over 3 years so an improvement is only a small boost to your points.

So, relevant to us is that Toulouse could really do with the points from Grand Final win. We need to make sure they are ours.

Giants just look very vulnerable to me. Toulouse do need the GF points but I can’t see it mattering when we have gained well in excess of over 1 full point upwards for facilities, LED and possibly finance.

Giants are declining year on year by looks in crowds and finishing position. Doesn’t look great for them in next few years if a few you mention find some investment.

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Re: IMG scores : Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:52 pm  

dboy wrote:

Will Leigh's league table improvement be enough to cancel out their loss of the Challenge Cup win points? Don't think it can, can it?

Leigh would increase their performance score by 0.2286 if they finish between 5th and 8th.
So they would lose only 0.03 when they lose the challenge cup bonus.

They were 11th over 3 years last time. But would be 9th with a 5th place finish. With a big gap below them.

I'll see if I can upload a pic of the excel so you can see my workings.

Re: IMG scores : Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:34 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/img-grading-timetable-explained-as-rugby-league-clubs-prepare-to-find-out-scores-next-month

Mixed messages as Gledhill reckons clubs have got their provisional scores. Time will tell I suppose.

Gledhill is wrong as usual, the RFL have been running a mock exercise to ensure that clubs know how to complete their submissions properly so they avoid the mess Cas got into.

Trying to teach Cas's administrators to read and write must be like trying to teach a pig to whistle