Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:07 pm  

Atkins had to move on, and I don't think it's anything to do with coaching. I just think he had reached his limit at Wakefield and needed a fresh challenge. We all stagnate sometimes, and people need fresh challenges. He has risen to his, and I'm pleased for him. As for Millard, he has shown flashes, and I suspect a new start for the players next year will see a different player.

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:12 pm  

Atkins had to go, for the money we got.
his development has suprised many, me included, and good luck to him, but it does sort of help playing with 2 skilled half backs,an in form pack, and matt king.

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:26 pm  

Atkins had to go because the tax man came knocking on Wakefield's door asking for some monies.

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:27 pm  

Atkins is a very athletic person but with no rugby brain. 1st touch of the ball on Saturday he ran it straight into touch on the 1st tackle. Can't remember him getting a pass out to his winger all game.
He gets a lot more opportunities to use his pace and strength in a team like Warrington. Don't think he's made any progress personally since he left us, he's just getting a lot more opportunities in a dominant side.

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:36 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Hope he is better next year because it seems to me hes come over from Aus to do a jump and catch the ball over the line. As for apologising that hes third rate he is third rate he was the 3rd choice centre at Canterbury Bulldogs so thats good evidence that he is third rate.

Watched Millard play in the nines, give him good ball and space and he can play a bit, we need to give him a chance before we pull him to pieces.

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:43 pm  

BIGAL1 wrote:

Watched Millard play in the nines, give him good ball and space and he can play a bit, we need to give him a chance before we pull him to pieces.

We haven't seen much Magic this season, but in fairness to him, I think he's badly used; we don't give him the right kind of ball and he doesn't often get the space to use the skills he has got - when he did (Hull FC) he showed what he can do. Atkins could always fall back on driving the ball in and running over people - Millard doesn't have the strength to do that, so when we're playing JK's patented five drives and a kick, can often look like a passenger.

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:47 pm  

bren2k wrote:

We haven't seen much Magic this season, but in fairness to him, I think he's badly used; we don't give him the right kind of ball and he doesn't often get the space to use the skills he has got - when he did (Hull FC) he showed what he can do. Atkins could always fall back on driving the ball in and running over people - Millard doesn't have the strength to do that, so when we're playing JK's patented five drives and a kick, can often look like a passenger.

Thats right, he's not Atkins and we can't use him like Atkins, like you say he's badly used.

IMO he's a decent player but needs "ball and space"

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:56 pm  

BIGAL1 wrote:

Thats right, he's not Atkins and we can't use him like Atkins, like you say he's badly used.

IMO he's a decent player but needs "ball and space"

Milard is a hard ground player, and given space will rip it up, however it seems big Aussies are most successful here

British Centres like Atkins do not come around very of often (Senior was last of his size) in our game, interesting that Leeds wanted him as well as wire...it seems as though he has developed his game a lot a Wire and lots complained about him when he was at Belle Vue due to his lack of passing... or lack of...by his own admittance he was still learning at Belle Vue, which is due to him being a Kick and Clap forward (Flanker) in his younger days...

All I can see with Atkins is good business by the club

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:35 am  

Atkins was good business for the club and ig great for the game. I honestly cannot see that he would of developed into such a great player at wakefield... in time when we build as a club and enter New market we will be able to offer players alot more and develop players the players we have to a truely competetive level

Re: Sick of the cheap option. : Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:59 am  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Hope he is better next year because it seems to me hes come over from Aus to do a jump and catch the ball over the line. As for apologising that hes third rate he is third rate he was the 3rd choice centre at Canterbury Bulldogs so thats good evidence that he is third rate.

Surely if he was 3rd choice then that makes him 2nd rate, ie next choice behind the starting 2 centres.


And anyway as others have said Ryan, Matt Gidley, Matt King would all look poor in our side.