Re: Not sure we are : Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:37 am  

Highlander wrote:

With the benefit of hindsight, I think Kirmond should have gone to Bulls when Kear went there. "Leader of men" I think Kear has described him as - he knew that's what the Bulls (relatively) young squad needed.
I know Kear tried to get him - bit like Webster, P/T training, develop your off-field interests, easier on the body when your career has taken such a physical toll, but Wakefield wanted him and that was his decision. I agree, he looks physically shot now.

People really do have a short memory. Kirmond was always going to stay this year whether he was up to it or not, It was mentioned at the start of the season he would be a bit part player this season and he is on a reduced deal to reflect that (Unfortunately the number of injuries we have had has led to him having to play a lot more this year).

It is his testimonial season and IMO he deserved a deal out of principal for all those years he stuck by us when he could of had his pick of clubs on a lot more money - As I say, people really do have a short memory and seem to forget that.

I usually don`t agree with giving a player a deal based on circumstances like this, but I think in this situation he has earned it over the years, he stuck by the club in its darkest day and has always been that player that gives his all and that is clear to see, now the shoe is on the other foot some fans want to throw him out like an old toy.

Re: Not sure we are : Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:49 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

People really do have a short memory. Kirmond was always going to stay this year whether he was up to it or not, It was mentioned at the start of the season he would be a bit part player this season and he is on a reduced deal to reflect that (Unfortunately the number of injuries we have had has led to him having to play a lot more this year).

It is his testimonial season and IMO he deserved a deal out of principal for all those years he stuck by us when he could of had his pick of clubs on a lot more money - As I say, people really do have a short memory and seem to forget that.

I usually don`t agree with giving a player a deal based on circumstances like this, but I think in this situation he has earned it over the years, he stuck by the club in its darkest day and has always been that player that gives his all and that is clear to see, now the shoe is on the other foot some fans want to throw him out like an old toy.

I wouldn't disagree with that but why persist in playing Kirmond when Anakin is available. Not as good a player imo but as far as I know fully fit. Seems odd to me as Kirmond seems to get injured within minutes so he needs to be the absolute last option to me and that hasn't happened.

He ay be a great leader but if he can't stay on the pitch its a worthless gift. I feel for the guy but when its over its over.

Re: Not sure we are : Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:19 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

I wouldn't disagree with that but why persist in playing Kirmond when Anakin is available. Not as good a player imo but as far as I know fully fit. Seems odd to me as Kirmond seems to get injured within minutes so he needs to be the absolute last option to me and that hasn't happened.

He ay be a great leader but if he can't stay on the pitch its a worthless gift. I feel for the guy but when its over its over.

Have to agree re Anakin over Kirmo. It does seem that he's pushed his body as far as he can but there has to be a line.
One think about it, Kirmo has been a great servant to the club and he can walk away with his head held high.

Re: Not sure we are : Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:25 pm  

on todays performance Im deffo not sure we are.

Re: Not sure we are : Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:56 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

on todays performance Im deffo not sure we are.

I don’t think we are because the same issues arise regardless of the players we sign. Line speed non-existent, fitness/conditioning questionable getting beat on the edges with regularit, player stood stil when taking the ball etc.

Re: Not sure we are : Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:26 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

I don’t think we are because the same issues arise regardless of the players we sign. Line speed non-existent, fitness/conditioning questionable getting beat on the edges with regularit, player stood stil when taking the ball etc.

especially the right edge tonight

Re: Not sure we are : Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:32 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

I don’t think we are because the same issues arise regardless of the players we sign. Line speed non-existent, fitness/conditioning questionable getting beat on the edges with regularit, player stood stil when taking the ball etc.

Jones Bishop was absolutely terrible today. and has been decidedly average this year overall

Re: Not sure we are : Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:37 pm  

Jizzer wrote:

What's the issue with big Dave, I know he got an injury a few weeks back but past few press conferences Chester's said 'hopefully he'll put his hand up', almost like he thinks he could play if he wanted to but can't be arsed.

I can’t imagine he’s properly fit given how he limped off at Magic on crutches. That didn’t look like a miss a couple of games and you’re fine injury.

Someone mentioned it in another thread on here but you’ve gone a while with injuries and you think it’ll be fine when they come back but the problem is the guys who have filled in for many games now are shattered from holding the fort and those returning are more than likely coming back a few weeks early given your form. Same happened to Leeds last season, between roughly rounds 4-14 we were depleted in the forwards but still managed a few wins early on before it took a toll and brought guys back early to try help but we went on a 8 match losing run that saw McDermott gone.

Re: Not sure we are : Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:59 pm  

metallicat wrote:

Jones Bishop was absolutely terrible today. and has been decidedly average this year overall

Been coated in Teflon for quite some time now.

Re: Not sure we are : Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:25 pm  

I have a problem binning players and under normal circumstances you can get away with one or two having an off day. Unfortunately the team just are not playing to any sort of standard. So the responsibility must be with the backroom team. Injuries and strange positional decisions have not helped but the buck must stop somewhere bearing in mind we have most of the squad all signed up for the next couple of seasons Its all about not finishing bottom for the vast majority of clubs and I feel the games in free fall as a result. Some may sneek a top 5 position but in all honesty two teams have stood out for most of the season. Its a problem that needs sorting asap its loosing any credibility it had.