Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:47 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Haye could not put push on his right leg at all throughout the fight, he was so far removed from the style he was fighting at the time I don`t know how you could come to a conclusion it would not have had any effect on the fight.

He should have pulled out of the fight but he didn't and yes, he would of probably done right to just keep his mouth shut. You obviously know very little about boxing as a broken toe, or any foot injury effects balance and everything goes from that in boxing.

Lets be fair he probably knows just as much about boxing as you do rugby

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:07 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Haye could not put push on his right leg at all throughout the fight, he was so far removed from the style he was fighting at the time I don`t know how you could come to a conclusion it would not have had any effect on the fight.

He should have pulled out of the fight but he didn't and yes, he would of probably done right to just keep his mouth shut. You obviously know very little about boxing as a broken toe, or any foot injury effects balance and everything goes from that in boxing.

And that’s coming from the horizontal champ only kidding

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:21 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Haye could not put push on his right leg at all throughout the fight, he was so far removed from the style he was fighting at the time I don`t know how you could come to a conclusion it would not have had any effect on the fight.

He should have pulled out of the fight but he didn't and yes, he would of probably done right to just keep his mouth shut. You obviously know very little about boxing as a broken toe, or any foot injury effects balance and everything goes from that in boxing.

Wow. The statement was “it cost Haye a world title”. I’m saying he wouldn’t have won that title injury or not. Was I being unclear? It did have an effect on the fight yes, it made it a snooze
Fest and he would still have lost anyway instead of losing by 12 rounds on the cards. The guy has a history of pulling out of fights and making excuses. Ask Tyson Fury his opinion, but he probably knows nothing either.

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:05 pm  

Cats13 wrote:

Wow. The statement was “it cost Haye a world title”. I’m saying he wouldn’t have won that title injury or not. Was I being unclear? It did have an effect on the fight yes, it made it a snooze
Fest and he would still have lost anyway instead of losing by 12 rounds on the cards. The guy has a history of pulling out of fights and making excuses. Ask Tyson Fury his opinion, but he probably knows nothing either.

Tbh I don't know whether he'd have won or not without that foot injury but what I'm sure of is that performance was a shadow of a normal Haye fight. Haye's a power puncher capable of putting anyone to sleep in the HW division so it would have been silly to rule him out imo. A foot injury makes it impossible to deliver your power shots in the same way or effectiveness and that was clear all fight. He had trouble all nighty getting into and out of Klitchko's range, where normally it's one of the things he's been good at, countering shots of taller boxers. Ateotd Klitchko was on his game and used his height and jab like he always did. Haye needed everything to go right and needed to land heavy hands on him early which he just wasn't able to do.

As for him pulling out of fights, every fighter does especially as they get older. Fury nearly wrecked his whole career through lack of self discipline , drugs and mental health problems, even before that he's not really someone who i'd be looking to get the truth from.

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:40 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Fifita is the one that concerns me, last I heard they wanted to operate but they did not know the extent of the problem, These are the types of injuries that can sometimes take multiple surgeries to get 100% right. Last thing we want is a situation like Cudjoe at Hudds, at fantastic player ruined by 3 surgeries to get his knee right.

Just on the back of this post, Dave looks to be going under the knife again...

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:56 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Just on the back of this post, Dave looks to be going under the knife again...

Hopefully Dave can get this sorted one way or the other for the start of the season.

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:44 pm  

Let's hope it's just a cleanup. Best done now as there is hopefully ample recovery time.

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:55 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Just on the back of this post, Dave looks to be going under the knife again...

Trying my best to keep up to what started as a decent thread, which Dave are we talking about here?, Fifita or Haye.

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:20 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

Trying my best to keep up to what started as a decent thread, which Dave are we talking about here?, Fifita or Haye.

so no pre season training for him - you most as well wright of this season for him wont get back to full fitness to have any impact
.

Re: Long term injured players. : Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:02 pm  

BOJ042 wrote:

so no pre season training for him - you most as well wright of this season for him wont get back to full fitness to have any impact
.

To be fair he's never looked in the best of shape for an athlete, his bulk seems to be his strong point.