FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Championship TV deal
RankPostsTeam
Academy Player126No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 28 20222 years246th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 24 11:3814th May 24 20:25LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Championship TV deal : Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:28 pm  
I remember years ago when Match of The Day weren't allowed to say which matches were going to be featured until 3 pm on Saturday due to worries about it affecting attendances.

I'm not sure how many Bradford fans were at BV on Friday night, but it was a good number. How many of them, and Wakey fans too, would have looked at the weather forecast (rain) and thought...'Nah, I'll get a few tins and a takeaway and watch it on Telly'. I'm not sure we would have had a full house if it had been broadcast live.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2672
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 22 20186 years160th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 24 15:3214th May 24 15:32LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Tomorrowland

Re: Championship TV deal : Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:28 pm  
AgbriggAmbler wrote:
I remember years ago when Match of The Day weren't allowed to say which matches were going to be featured until 3 pm on Saturday due to worries about it affecting attendances.

I'm not sure how many Bradford fans were at BV on Friday night, but it was a good number. How many of them, and Wakey fans too, would have looked at the weather forecast (rain) and thought...'Nah, I'll get a few tins and a takeaway and watch it on Telly'. I'm not sure we would have had a full house if it had been broadcast live.


Yep and obviously Saturday blackout is still a thing, it's against the law to broadcast an English club football game between certain hours on a Saturday and that was always to protect attendances for clubs.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2672
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 22 20186 years160th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 24 15:3214th May 24 15:32LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Tomorrowland

Re: Championship TV deal : Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:34 pm  
malpalu wrote:
I don't understand why any club would accept a deal like this when IMG points are offered for increasing engagement on social media and YouTube. Why give away all those clicks for a few hundred quid?


I get the point of attendances but I'm not sure I get this point tbh, surely the more exposure to a wider audience for clubs would only increase click rate / followers etc on social media ? I don't think it stops anyone going and watching videos on the YT, If anything it likely increases. Then there is all of the hidden benefit of increased sponsorship revenue into the club based on X televised games a year.
RankPostsTeam
Academy Player126No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 28 20222 years246th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 24 11:3814th May 24 20:25LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Championship TV deal : Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:11 pm  
I suspect that growing YouTube and other social media interactions will be more attractive to advertisers than exposure on a little known TV channel. It would be interesting to know if there's any actual data to back this up or disprove it...e.g early challenge cup rounds on BBC Red Button v. those on Our League.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star108
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 09 201311 years318th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
1st May 24 19:4422nd Mar 24 14:58LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Championship TV deal : Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:58 pm  
homme vaste wrote:
I get the point of attendances but I'm not sure I get this point tbh, surely the more exposure to a wider audience for clubs would only increase click rate / followers etc on social media ? I don't think it stops anyone going and watching videos on the YT, If anything it likely increases. Then there is all of the hidden benefit of increased sponsorship revenue into the club based on X televised games a year.


The point is that club want fans interacting with its own social media channels, reacting to its own clips and pushing through to its own YT. All those metrics have value for both IMG and for attracting future sponsors. If it was on Terrestrial TV or a dedicated show on Sky to compliment other coverage its different, but a small TV channel with low viewing figures and little cut trough offers little if any benefit. The value of Championship TV rights are more or less cancelled out by the cost of production. To the bigger clubs, who already have media teams it makes complete sense to utilise its own media assets.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20306
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200816 years6th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th May 24 23:1414th May 24 21:10LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Championship TV deal : Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:31 pm  
homme vaste wrote:
I get the point of attendances but I'm not sure I get this point tbh, surely the more exposure to a wider audience for clubs would only increase click rate / followers etc on social media ? I don't think it stops anyone going and watching videos on the YT, If anything it likely increases. Then there is all of the hidden benefit of increased sponsorship revenue into the club based on X televised games a year.


It's not like it's got a wide reach like BBC.
The only people watching on here are rugby fans who could have gone to the game.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13534
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 200618 years62nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 24 17:5914th May 24 13:24LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
No bowl, stick, STICK!
Signature
1/10

Re: Championship TV deal : Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:23 pm  
This post contains an image, if you are the copyright owner and would like this image removed then please contact support@rlfans.com
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6229No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 03 200420 years33rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th May 24 14:4014th May 24 19:29LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Top six 2005 - Trinity.

Re: Championship TV deal : Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:43 am  
Apologies if this has been mentioned as haven’t read back.

If you look at the clubs YT channel and other platforms it’s clear that by far and away the most views/interactions are from match highlights and full match replays. This is worth around maybe 10,000 views upwards a week and over the season that’s hundreds of thousands. All relevant to that media element of the scoring section posted by WT earlier this week.

These interactions if the game is available widely and on replay with subscription or repeat will dramatically decrease and potentially have a detrimental impact on both interactions and subscriptions across all platforms.

For a club like us I looked at what level we are at and I put us just within the bracket that if these were reduced we could be at risk of losing ING points or they would be made more difficult to attain/maintain.

The financial compensation for this is not sufficient. That said if views of the channel/new deal are agreed to be added to clubs scores then that could work. But then that would also have to apply to SL clubs and with Sky getting far more exposure that would create a big gap and possibly an uneven field.
Previous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: alegend, apexcat, B V Bob, Cats13, cocker, FOREVERTRIN, LG83, REDWHITEANDBLUE, t drednowts is cumin!, Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo and 219 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
36m
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 3
PopTart
36
40m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
9021
51m
Academy Scholorship womens reserves PDRL teams
GP1
13
Recent
Smith out ASAP
KaeruJim
431
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
fosdyke99
1955
Recent
Am I missing something
KaeruJim
97
Recent
Attending Forum
Willzay
15
Recent
RD 11 Catalan Dragons A
KaeruJim
144
Recent
Squad 2024
faxcar
423
Recent
Rumours thread
FOREVERTRIN
1314
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Bradford next
Shifty Cat
154
1m
London Away
BP1
329
1m
Rumours thread
FOREVERTRIN
1314
1m
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 3
PopTart
36
1m
Smith out ASAP
KaeruJim
431
2m
Squad 2024
faxcar
423
2m
Mago
Jason65
7
2m
Attending Forum
Willzay
15
3m
Fitzgibbon
ninearches
71
3m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
KaeruJim
174
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Swinton Lions
Dr Dreadnoug
7
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 12
ocdstephen
3
TODAY
Corey Hall
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Well Done
CasAttack
1
TODAY
Hudds and HKR
Lower Crease
2
TODAY
Katherine Jenkins OBE to perform at Wembley Stadium on Rugby Leagues Finals Day
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Mago
Jason65
7
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Challenge Cup SF
sir adrian m
6
TODAY
Dons v Batley Sunday 19/5/24 3pm
Wilf Grimsha
4
TODAY
Support today
Trojan Horse
12
TODAY
BBC
Khlav Kalash
12
TODAY
Ticket for the final
REDWHITEANDB
47
TODAY
London Broncos First Win Of 2024 Over Awful Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Semi Final
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
"I didnt see that coming"
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Katherine Jenkins OBE to perfo..
268
London Broncos First Win Of 20..
555
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
619
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
764
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
975
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
986
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
1704
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
2098
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
1458
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
1626
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
3369
Salford Red Devils Battle Hard..
3209
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
3161
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
3682
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
4111
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist