Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:29 pm  

We need a coach who can improve players, or get the most out of his existing squad, many players come to Hull, look good for the first few games then seem to lose a bit of pace, offloading ability, attitude and general intelligence. If we'd have signed Konrad Hurell for example, do you think he'd be performing at the same level under Hodgson as he is for Woolf?

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:32 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Said pretty much the same on the game thread in that there still appears to be little in the way of responsibility or accountability in terms of player performance and all still seems to comfy and cozy for players. Feels like the tail is still wagging to dog and my worry is that BH just doesn't have enough authority over the players or is just too nice a guy.

Agree on the good time bit, was it Peter Sharp (who took us on a 13 game winning run and got us to our first and only grand final) who clamped down on discipline, but the players didn't like it so effectively forced him out? Then it was back to the good times under Agar, Radders and seemingly Hodgson?

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:53 pm  

Steve0 wrote:

Agree on the good time bit, was it Peter Sharp (who took us on a 13 game winning run and got us to our first and only grand final) who clamped down on discipline, but the players didn't like it so effectively forced him out? Then it was back to the good times under Agar, Radders and seemingly Hodgson?

No, the players loved Sharp. Hetherington and Rule didn't.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:03 pm  

great Coach Peter Sharp and a real disciplinarian who was respected by the players. I think it was Peter Gentle who was driven out by the players and the 'coach elect' I think its fair to say that if that ever comes out what was said that night at Huddersfield after the game it will make for interesting reading.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:06 pm  

The Dentist Wilf wrote:

great Coach Peter Sharp and a real disciplinarian who was respected by the players. I think it was Peter Gentle who was driven out by the players and the 'coach elect' I think its fair to say that if that ever comes out what was said that night at Huddersfield after the game it will make for interesting reading.

My bad...wrong Peter!

[R.B.A]

Re: Uber for Brett : Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:26 pm  

I'll give my views as an outsider on Brett Hodgson, then feel free to rubbish them.

It appears to me that he is very very good at building a club, putting strong structures in place with the right staff within those structures.

The pathway he has developed at Hull from the scholarship into College, Academy, Reserves, Rising Stars into the first team looks a genuine one and if I were a Hull youngster I would feel I had a real opportunity to advance there and be supported along the way.

Some of you guys will go to more junior Hull games than me but I do go to a fair few and every scholarship, academy and reserve game I have attended I have seen Brett Hodgson. You wouldn't see that with a lot of Super League coaches. He is across everything which has got to be a major positive.

However, I'm not convinced he is a great coach or a particularly good man manager of players from snippets I'm told.

In my opinion you would be in a far better position if Hodgson had come over in a Head of Rugby role and Andy Last had been retained purely to coach your first team with no other responsibilities.

[Chris71]

Re: Uber for Brett : Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:02 pm  

R.B.A wrote:

I'll give my views as an outsider on Brett Hodgson, then feel free to rubbish them.

It appears to me that he is very very good at building a club, putting strong structures in place with the right staff within those structures.

The pathway he has developed at Hull from the scholarship into College, Academy, Reserves, Rising Stars into the first team looks a genuine one and if I were a Hull youngster I would feel I had a real opportunity to advance there and be supported along the way.

Some of you guys will go to more junior Hull games than me but I do go to a fair few and every scholarship, academy and reserve game I have attended I have seen Brett Hodgson. You wouldn't see that with a lot of Super League coaches. He is across everything which has got to be a major positive.

However, I'm not convinced he is a great coach or a particularly good man manager of players from snippets I'm told.

In my opinion you would be in a far better position if Hodgson had come over in a Head of Rugby role and Andy Last had been retained purely to coach your first team with no other responsibilities.

Think thats a fair shout to be honest and have to say I agree about the Head of Rugby role for Hodgson as opposed to Head Coach

Re: Uber for Brett : Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:11 pm  

R.B.A wrote:

I'll give my views as an outsider on Brett Hodgson, then feel free to rubbish them.

It appears to me that he is very very good at building a club, putting strong structures in place with the right staff within those structures.

The pathway he has developed at Hull from the scholarship into College, Academy, Reserves, Rising Stars into the first team looks a genuine one and if I were a Hull youngster I would feel I had a real opportunity to advance there and be supported along the way.

Some of you guys will go to more junior Hull games than me but I do go to a fair few and every scholarship, academy and reserve game I have attended I have seen Brett Hodgson. You wouldn't see that with a lot of Super League coaches. He is across everything which has got to be a major positive.

However, I'm not convinced he is a great coach or a particularly good man manager of players from snippets I'm told.

In my opinion you would be in a far better position if Hodgson had come over in a Head of Rugby role and Andy Last had been retained purely to coach your first team with no other responsibilities.

R.B.A

On what you've seen from the Hull Academy which players would you consider having the best chance of establishing themselves in the first team in the next year or so?

Thanks.