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Re: Uber for Brett : Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:43 pm  
two main concerns for me about Hodgson
The first and probably what costs us games is his inability to get to grips with the Indiscipline on the field.
The second is the very poor recruitment whilst he has been in charge.
The jury is still out about Evans. McIntosh could turn out to be OK whilst Mitch could have been the find of the season but he hardly plays him.
We could be looking at a new in house Rookie coaching team with Gaz Ellis and Shenton and before supporters say we need an experienced coach well Peet at Wigan isnt doing so bad.
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Re: Uber for Brett : Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:13 pm  
I'd say he'd abit too nice as someone else said.

He's trying to play players into form which isn't working.

He stated he should of trusted Hookem sooner yet the lad can't get a game over 2 terribly performing half's.

Gale can't put a kick Into touch more than 8 yards down the pitch, can't kick a goal and can't make a pass, Hookem would play better.

Lovodua has put in man of the match performances at 6, yet Hodgson again is persisting with a half in Reynolds who's basically here for a jolly, the ridiculous tackling where he's trying to flatten players and bouncing off or giving pens away for high shots is cringe worthy now.

Balmforth top young hooker, tipped for big things, can't even get on the bench ahead of Jordan Johnstone who's deemed not good enough, Hodgson would rather flog an aging Houghton for 80 minutes.

Shaul another who's not good enough any more, way off the pace yesterday and most times he's appeared, deemed not good enough yet starts other young prospects. Mcintosh and Swift can cover and we have Barron who can play wing who's meant to be lightning and he's about 6ft2 offering an aerial threat out wide. No can't pick that.

Zero creativity, without Connor but absolutely no bravery or trust from Hodgson in giving hungry talented young players a chance.

Been baffled by a lot of team selections but bottom line is Hodgson isn't brave enough to pick the academy lads.

For me we need an experienced coach who will also demand consistency and performances.
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Re: Uber for Brett : Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:04 pm  
We need to move away from this "next year will be better" mentality too and focus on the season in hand. Fans will still go, but some will question the point of the rest of this season if all the focus at the moment seems to be on 2023 signings...it's happened over the past few seasons too...

2020...radders got sacked and we appointed hodgson so things will improve in 2021...they didn't really

2021...we were promised a clear out of some of the dead wood Hodgson inherited from Radford, so we get excited about 2022.

2022 ...Two ageing halves failing to deliver...talk of 3 exciting signings to get us excited for next year

2023...same pattern? "We just need to move a,b,c, on and sign X,y,z for 2024 and we'll be in with a chance"
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Re: Uber for Brett : Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:44 pm  
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I'd say he'd abit too nice as someone else said.

He's trying to play players into form which isn't working.

He stated he should of trusted Hookem sooner yet the lad can't get a game over 2 terribly performing half's.

Gale can't put a kick Into touch more than 8 yards down the pitch, can't kick a goal and can't make a pass, Hookem would play better.

Lovodua has put in man of the match performances at 6, yet Hodgson again is persisting with a half in Reynolds who's basically here for a jolly, the ridiculous tackling where he's trying to flatten players and bouncing off or giving pens away for high shots is cringe worthy now.

Balmforth top young hooker, tipped for big things, can't even get on the bench ahead of Jordan Johnstone who's deemed not good enough, Hodgson would rather flog an aging Houghton for 80 minutes.

Shaul another who's not good enough any more, way off the pace yesterday and most times he's appeared, deemed not good enough yet starts other young prospects. Mcintosh and Swift can cover and we have Barron who can play wing who's meant to be lightning and he's about 6ft2 offering an aerial threat out wide. No can't pick that.

Zero creativity, without Connor but absolutely no bravery or trust from Hodgson in giving hungry talented young players a chance.

Been baffled by a lot of team selections but bottom line is Hodgson isn't brave enough to pick the academy lads.

For me we need an experienced coach who will also demand consistency and performances.


Completely agree with all your points about the players. I like Brett but he needs to be more demanding and a bit more cut throat with his selections.

Was thinking about this on a run post game yesterday. If we were to, say, release Johnstone, Shaul, Gale, Reynolds and Bowden tomorrow, none of them would end up in Super League. They’d all go to higher end Championship teams. Yet they’re regulars for us.

The season is mostly over for us now with Connor’s injury. Time to blood the likes of Hookem, Severs, Balmforth, Barron, Litten, Staveley, Burrell etc. As many have said, could save us money in the long run, which could be more crucial than ever in the current climate.
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Re: Uber for Brett : Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:35 pm  
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Completely agree with all your points about the players. I like Brett but he needs to be more demanding and a bit more cut throat with his selections.

Was thinking about this on a run post game yesterday. If we were to, say, release Johnstone, Shaul, Gale, Reynolds and Bowden tomorrow, none of them would end up in Super League. They’d all go to higher end Championship teams. Yet they’re regulars for us.

The season is mostly over for us now with Connor’s injury. Time to blood the likes of Hookem, Severs, Balmforth, Barron, Litten, Staveley, Burrell etc. As many have said, could save us money in the long run, which could be more crucial than ever in the current climate.


Thanks, I try to call a spade a spade, praise where its warranted and constructive criticism also.

I think Hodgson being new as a coach he has the albatross of not wanting to risk unproven youngsters, hanging around his neck, I think itl prove to be his downfall
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Re: Uber for Brett : Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:44 pm  
shoving 5 or 6 youngsters in would be madness & probably set them back.

Do think the time is right to retire Josh, he is a joke with a ridiculous & appalling tackle technique - surely BH cant support this ? Non existent in attack too, will rank as one of our worst overseas signings ever.

Do think JJ needs to go back to reserves - Balmforth looks class. Lovodua back to 6 ? Wynn to FB ? Cam Scott centre ?

For me Gale & Shaul running out of time, love Jamie & at least he cares and is trying but sadly his best days are behind him.

Next weeks team will be fascinating, BH needs to put a team out that will win.
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Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:03 am  
For mine, I feel it's an excuse, that we need to recruit better...Other coaches such as Wolff,Holbrook, Maguire, didn't have that luxury, they just improved the basic core skills to an existing squad..
Take St Helens for example, in my opinion, they are well coached side,well organized attack & defence, superbly fit.
World class individuals?? Not for me personally..
Regarding the non selection of Hookem, I wonder if he is under the same fate as Jack Brown was last season...
Brown last season, was in & out of the squad, even though we were lacking a prop, it has emerged since, it was Brown's attitude.
Maybe Hookem is the same??
Reynolds, we all know his defence, is shocking, but ..why do we always play the '6' on the right side??surely on the left he'd get more attacking opportunities.....
Finally Brett Hodgson, in my view, He's an improvement on Radford, he's installed a better defensive system, improved some individual players, and the youth system is looking rosy as well..
The negative is the attack structure, it's no different to Radford.
No backing up, poor passing,etc etc. Is this intentional, to let players manage the attack itself?? Looks that way to me

Since Agar was removed, I've always felt this job is for an experienced Head Coach....
I've not changed my mind..
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Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 6:48 am  
Seeing as most of the squad now have a weekend off I wonder if they are busy organising their next pi$$ up and team feast at some greasy cafe? Time for another pool tournament?

I’m all for team bonding sessions but we seem to be the most unfit squad in Super League?

This next week is really crucial to work on various things that prepare the team for Warrington and have them ready to put everything into that match.

Another poor performance there surely has the axe hovering over BH?
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Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:25 am  
I've backed Hodgson from the moment he was announced but even I cant help but think the pressure is well and truly on him now. No problem with players having a holiday during the international break, but how will they conduct themselves? It all comes back to the culture of the club. Go on the lash most of the week, come back into training Monday and then wonder why we are blowing out our arses come half time on the next game back. Saw it at Saints, saw it again at Wakey, probably will see it at Wire next week.

Big decisions to be made by BH, does he stay loyal to Gale/Reynolds and just hope they eventually click, or does he take the risk and give youth a go.

To give sympathy to the halves, they aren't the only ones who underperformed on Saturday. Shaul is a shadow of the player he was, no confidence, looks off the pace. As for Houghton, I won't go on, I could rant all day.
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Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:44 am  
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Seeing as most of the squad now have a weekend off I wonder if they are busy organising their next pi$$ up and team feast at some greasy cafe? Time for another pool tournament?

I’m all for team bonding sessions but we seem to be the most unfit squad in Super League?

This next week is really crucial to work on various things that prepare the team for Warrington and have them ready to put everything into that match.

Another poor performance there surely has the axe hovering over BH?


Is that the team are unfit or down to the way they play in terms of penalties/set restarts that we give away and the rotation/use of the bench?

I must admit that I have often wondered about the training as while I've been out and about with I've quite often driven past the training ground at various times of the day and rarely seen anyone out on the field.

From the outside as a fan it still seems as though there isn't enough responsibility or accountability taken for poor performances and its still cosy, is it that BH is just too nice a guy?
As much as some have said its the players that are committing the penalties and giving away set restarts and yes they are but ultimately its the Head Coach and coaching team to address issues of the play of which ill discipline is one and one that never seems to go away.
One other point of note is that a couple of times when interviewed BH in terms certain aspects of play he has said along the lines of he lets/leaves the players to do that, I just can't seem to find the interviews now.
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