[Chris71]

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:42 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Amongst Murdock's tweets tonight was the comment that Agar had little money for players. What, apart from £100k plus fee for Westerman, you mean? He's convinced that our next coach will reap success off the back of what Agar's done.

Not forgetting fees paid for Tansey & Obst??

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:43 pm  

Said also:
"Peter Walsh was technically the best coach I played under and I've had a few. Another coach FC fans never liked and got rid of."

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:45 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Amongst Murdock's tweets tonight was the comment that Agar had little money for players. What, apart from £100k plus fee for Westerman, you mean? He's convinced that our next coach will reap success off the back of what Agar's done.

Oops - think maybe he was talking about Walsh. Very confusing is Twitter. Still think he's a bit of an @rse, mind.

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:46 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Said also:
"Peter Walsh was technically the best coach I played under and I've had a few. Another coach FC fans never liked and got rid of."

I'm glad we've got so much power

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:49 pm  

Talking of twitter,will rich agar on twitter go now or stay ?

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:58 pm  

Just listening on the iplayer now, blimey that Trevor is a nutter isn't he?

Murdock's views seem to just mirror the excuse culture we seem to have had with Agar. He's a great coach and any problems have been entirely out of his control. Strange how it seems that there are so many things he has no control over, though.

Martyn Sadler was similar earlier though. I wonder why it is that so many people seem to back him. Is it that he really does have ability that we're overlooking or has been restricted, or is it that they all just like him and want to stick up for him?

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:01 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Murdock's views seem to just mirror the excuse culture we seem to have had with Agar. He's a great coach and any problems have been entirely out of his control. Strange how it seems that there are so many things he has no control over, though.

Martyn Sadler was similar earlier though. I wonder why it is that so many people seem to back him. Is it that he really does have ability that we're overlooking or has been restricted, or is it that they all just like him and want to stick up for him?

Think his passport has something to do with it.

People in the media are desperate for a English coach to succeed.

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:06 pm  

The Hollywood Frasier wrote:

Think his passport has something to do with it.

People in the media are desperate for a English coach to succeed.

But they just make themselves look foolish and actually undermine the coaches they talking about IMO. Describing some fantasy scenario where failing coaches are really brilliant but have just been unlucky does not help make a case for them.

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:38 pm  

Murdock's closing comments about not giving in to fan threats of not buying passes, Agar's worth the risk of perseverance because Hull fans are loyal and will come and watch if we're winning: Is it just me or is that very close to the old board's perceived stance of treating us with disdain because we'll turn up and pump money in regardless?

Also, we've persevered with Agar for 4 years, so no matter how much Murdock tries to paint him as a victim, he's been given ample time to impress and simply hasn't. I fail to see why he can have so much faith that we will suddenly be contenders under Agar. It's been coming 'next year' for the last 3 at least, we fans just seem to have cottoned on to the fact that it never actually arrives. Maybe it's about time Murdock considered that in this case the majority might actually be right.

Re: craig murdoch/sportstalk : Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:19 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Murdock's closing comments about not giving in to fan threats of not buying passes, Agar's worth the risk of perseverance because Hull fans are loyal and will come and watch if we're winning: Is it just me or is that very close to the old board's perceived stance of treating us with disdain because we'll turn up and pump money in regardless?

Also, we've persevered with Agar for 4 years, so no matter how much Murdock tries to paint him as a victim, he's been given ample time to impress and simply hasn't. I fail to see why he can have so much faith that we will suddenly be contenders under Agar. It's been coming 'next year' for the last 3 at least, we fans just seem to have cottoned on to the fact that it never actually arrives. Maybe it's about time Murdock considered that in this case the majority might actually be right.

Just catching the second half of it now as i missed it due to a job. But if those were his comments it shows why he is not a businessman unlike AP. As the owner AP will have known the general feeling among the fans and rather than risk the loss of yet more supporters/revenue in the hope that Agar may finally get it right he has taken a sound business decision and removed the coach and brought in a new man.
You only have to look at the general buzz on these boards and facebook to notice the sudden change in the fans and people I know (myself included) will now either renew or get a pass again for the coming season.