: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:48 am  

Dave K. wrote:

No comparison, that why Diskin plays for Leeds and Alker for Salford.

Alker was a decent player about three years ago, and should have moved to a bigger club or the NRL (where he had an offer). He now doesnt look the player he once was.

Most Salford fans think he may end up at LF as he is too slow for hooker now.

Maybe so. I'd rather we had taken Tommy Lee to play 9 than use Sinfield and Burrow!!

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:55 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Not sure Diskins is International class tbh. I hope Hock does not throw some of his riduclous offloads in the wrong area of the pitch. Personally I would have started with Wilkin and used Hock off the bench.

Hock needs to use his Brain more, if he did he would be one the best backrowers in the game.

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:31 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Hock needs to use his Brain more, if he did he would be one the best backrowers in the game.

Hocks biggest attribute is his unpredictability. Maybe this is due to that fact the he doesn't even know what he is doing (lack of brain).

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:41 am  

Willa wrote:

Hocks biggest attribute is his unpredictability. Maybe this is due to that fact the he doesn't even know what he is doing (lack of brain).

When we look at the Aussie team we see how good their players are etc and admit that they have strength in depth and are pretty fantastic. Do you think they look at any of our players and think the same thing? Would the Aussies be scared of Hock for example?

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:43 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

Yes, im a 100% behind having 2 specialist hookers in the 17 unless one can play 80 mins like Berrigan!

Roby gets alot of game time for Saints anyway so i dont think playing 80 mins is beyond his capabilities.

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:44 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

Would the Aussies be scared of Hock for example?

They would fear his offloading game no question about it.

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:44 am  

The Hollywood Frasier wrote:

Roby gets alot of game time for Saints anyway so i dont think playing 80 mins is beyond his capabilities.

Didnt say it was beyond his capabilities, however theres a difference between what someone is capable of and how you get the best value out of someone. Roby IMO should be a 40 min impact hooker in 2 bursts of 20. (2nd half of each half)

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:47 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

Didnt say it was beyond his capabilities, however theres a difference between what someone is capable of and how you get the best value out of someone. Roby IMO should be a 40 min impact hooker in 2 bursts of 20. (2nd half of each half)

I cant stand coaches that seem to feel as though they have to rotate hookers at set times. Its as though no matter how well they are going they will get taken off its the same for props. Its what last season Agar was doing which showed his lack of experience and naivity IMO.

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:52 am  

The Hollywood Frasier wrote:

I cant stand coaches that seem to feel as though they have to rotate hookers at set times. Its as though no matter how well they are going they will get taken off its the same for props. Its what last season Agar was doing which showed his lack of experience and naivity IMO.

Think they need to be flexible to the situation but they must have an ideal approach too. Roby could be having a great game and get interchanged at half time but if he has played at 120% because he knew he would play 20 mins rather than at 90% for 30 mins then no one should have an issue with sticking to a game plan.

The fact of the matter going back to my previous point is that we seem to be happy as an international team to accept players playing in certain roles because they can rather than taking the approach of player specialist players in roles which adds the best value to that role.

: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:54 am  

The Hollywood Frasier wrote:

They would fear his offloading game no question about it.

Maybe. I just a lot of people get excited about GB players like Hock who in comparison to their Oz or even NZ opposition players arent a patch on them IMO. His offloading game that you mention can also be our downfall as previously highlighted.