Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:17 pm  

Didn't Houghton say a couple of years ago that he lacked the enthusiasm he always had?

As far as I know he hasn't said that he wants to play on next season. Cynically maybe it's a bargaining tactic to secure a new deal.

He's been a fantastic servant for Hull but maybe it's time to move on.

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:56 pm  

BlackNwhite1865 wrote:

Call me crazy but I’d let Carlos go if possible. He’s too injury prone if we get Sutcliffe I’d happily with him and Wynne.

Can’t see Simm joining with Regan Grace leaving Saints. He’s their ready made replacement

A little unfair to call Carlos injury prone, he only missed half a dozen between 2020 and 2021.

I think at Saints Simm would still have Bennison and Davies in front of him so I don't see him staying there.

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:48 pm  

Shaul not wanting to budge is causing a delay with the Sutcliffe deal.

That 3 year deal is really coming back to bite us

[Chris71]

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:53 pm  

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

Didn't Houghton say a couple of years ago that he lacked the enthusiasm he always had?

As far as I know he hasn't said that he wants to play on next season. Cynically maybe it's a bargaining tactic to secure a new deal.

He's been a fantastic servant for Hull but maybe it's time to move on.

Yeh think it was an interview he did in 2020 where he'd said he'd fallen out of love with the game and had only just started to enjoy the game again. For me he has been a great servant for the club but if he is truly feeling that way again then it would be a big mistake to re sign him for another year and time to move on.

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:37 pm  

BlackNwhite1865 wrote:

Call me crazy but I’d let Carlos go if possible. He’s too injury prone if we get Sutcliffe I’d happily with him and Wynne.

Can’t see Simm joining with Regan Grace leaving Saints. He’s their ready made replacement

I've always thought Carlos is a bit over rated

Hes been a solid player but not as good as some of our fans make out

Yes he's 7/8 out of 10 but hardly ever 10/10

Not been many games where I've gone wow Carlos was unstoppable like Jamie lyon etc

Think Sutcliffe would be a upgrade

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:08 pm  

Thetalentboy wrote:

I've always thought Carlos is a bit over rated

Hes been a solid player but not as good as some of our fans make out

Yes he's 7/8 out of 10 but hardly ever 10/10

Not been many games where I've gone wow Carlos was unstoppable like Jamie lyon etc

Think Sutcliffe would be a upgrade

Poor comparison with Lyon if I may say.

If you believe that a player scores 7/8 out of 10 he is doing a very good job. Comparing him to Lyon is naive. Players of that quality no longer play in SL.

Carlos has had a few injuries of late but is still one of the best centres in SL.

Sutcliffe an upgrade on Carlos? absolutely no chance.

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:14 pm  

Marcus's Bicycle wrote:

Poor comparison with Lyon if I may say.

If you believe that a player scores 7/8 out of 10 he is doing a very good job. Comparing him to Lyon is naive. Players of that quality no longer play in SL.

Carlos has had a few injuries of late but is still one of the best centres in SL.

Sutcliffe an upgrade on Carlos? absolutely no chance.

Regular 7/8 out of 10 would make him our best player by a country mile over the last few seasons?

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:21 pm  

Marcus Walker has gone back to Whitehaven for the rest of the season.

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:53 pm  

Thetalentboy wrote:

I've always thought Carlos is a bit over rated

Hes been a solid player but not as good as some of our fans make out

Yes he's 7/8 out of 10 but hardly ever 10/10

Not been many games where I've gone wow Carlos was unstoppable like Jamie lyon etc

Think Sutcliffe would be a upgrade

Have to disagree with you.Carlos is very strong,decent footwork,good defence and deceptive pace.
We would be going backwards trying to add pace to our backline if the club is looking to add Sutcliffe as a centre.
If we get rid of Griffin then Simm would be an ideal signing as a left centre to partner Swift

Re: Shopping List 2023 : Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:11 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Have to disagree with you.Carlos is very strong,decent footwork,good defence and deceptive pace.
We would be going backwards trying to add pace to our backline if the club is looking to add Sutcliffe as a centre.
If we get rid of Griffin then Simm would be an ideal signing as a left centre to partner Swift

I think/hope we'd use Sutcliffe as a 2nd row next season. And go with Carlos and Wynne as our starting centres.