Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:33 pm  

I reckon with fonua signing well have to go with one less forward than originally planned

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:52 pm  

oud3pstander wrote:

This was as a juvenile so not to sure can be held against him?

Like to see Ratu's contract is it if stationed abroad we don't pay him remember he can be deployed any where at any moment.

I'm pretty sure Ratu said in an interview that he is being paid by Hull and that he isn't getting anything from the army currently whilst he is on leave. I might be mistaken though.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:54 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I reckon with fonua signing well have to go with one less forward than originally planned

Quite possibly, although if the plan is now for Griffin to play back row then that isn't necessarily a bad thing. He has the potential to be better than a lot of the guys we have being linked with.

Also as I mentioned in another thread, I like the idea of Tuimavave in the Westerman role.

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:00 pm  

Radford likes a big limp at 13 who can play through the middle as a glorified prop. Tuimavave isnt up to that role and jornis Kelly. They might be ok for 15 minutes against a tiring opposition but in the modern game you need a player there who can cart the ball up 15 times a game and make 30+ tackles. No side in sl plays with a lightweight 13

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:03 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Quite possibly, although if the plan is now for Griffin to play back row then that isn't necessarily a bad thing. He has the potential to be better than a lot of the guys we have being linked with.

Also as I mentioned in another thread, I like the idea of Tuimavave in the Westerman role.

Ligi Sao is the new westerman

No need to move a silky skilful defensively savvy centre into the engine room trudging the ball into big men making 40 tackles a game

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:12 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Radford likes a big limp at 13 who can play through the middle as a glorified prop. Tuimavave isnt up to that role and jornis Kelly. They might be ok for 15 minutes against a tiring opposition but in the modern game you need a player there who can cart the ball up 15 times a game and make 30+ tackles. No side in sl plays with a lightweight 13

Our best yrs In recent times are with Ellis there playing 3rd prop

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:13 pm  

airliebird,runninglate! wrote:

Our best yrs In recent times are with Ellis there playing 3rd prop

Indeed. Like I said, we wont be playing centres or half backs there

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:46 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Quite possibly, although if the plan is now for Griffin to play back row then that isn't necessarily a bad thing. He has the potential to be better than a lot of the guys we have being linked with

Totally agree with that

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:49 pm  

We should keep some cap space and a non fed place for fifita if wakey end up going down

Re: Recruitment 2020 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:07 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Radford likes a big limp at 13 who can play through the middle as a glorified prop. Tuimavave isnt up to that role and jornis Kelly. They might be ok for 15 minutes against a tiring opposition but in the modern game you need a player there who can cart the ball up 15 times a game and make 30+ tackles. No side in sl plays with a lightweight 13

I dont think Kelly can play that role, but I think you do Tuimavave a disservice. He is a strong enough ball carrier that he can play at the line and interest defenders and he has the hands to link play. He can defend well against all kinds of players and is well capable of 30+ tackles per game.

It isn't the ideal scenario, but there are two reasons I am suggesting it.

1. Even if Griffin does play in the backrow we still have 5 top quality backs and only 4 spots. This allows us to have all our best strike players on the field as much as possible.

2. Our attack has been massively improved this year, and I put that in no small part down to Westerman. I am concerned that going back to a prop at 13 will stifle us a bit. Even if you start with a prop at 13 to lay the foundations and then move Carlos inside for a spell I think it's worth exploring.