Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:24 pm  

Bet Lynch wrote:

Splitting hairs on that mind you could be right had Chase not got banned for the disgusting cheap hit and suspended by his club for going on the lash it may have been more than splitting hairs, I doubt it though. Also Dobbo can kick and play in a structured team.

Splitting hairs?! It's nearly 40% more try assists per game.

If you say you'd prefer Dobson, that's up to you and your right, but if you're going to use your precious stats to back up your argument they should really check if they actually suggest what you say first.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:29 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Splitting hairs?! It's nearly 40% more try assists per game.

If you say you'd prefer Dobson, that's up to you and your right, but if you're going to use your precious stats to back up your argument they should really check if they actually suggest what you say first.

Chase is a show pony, however I will take him cos he is better than what we have, stats are only half the story even I know that (for what it is worth a dobbin made my sig as a piiss take, and I love it as people like you think I don't know my rugby and rely on stats alone) however I do always think it is good to check the stats . I reckon you should start looking a bit more as your assessment of players on occasions is so far off the mark it is unreal eg Turner.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:30 pm  

Bet Lynch wrote:

Splitting hairs on that mind you could be right had Chase not got banned for the disgusting cheap hit and suspended by his club for going on the lash it may have been more than splitting hairs, I doubt it though. Also Dobbo can kick and play in a structured team.

As can Holdsworth, we don't need both in my opinion

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:31 pm  

Faithful One wrote:

As can Holdsworth, we don't need both in my opinion

Always good to have good 2 kickers imo, in fact the more kickers the better.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:44 pm  

Superbowl Scott wrote:

Dobson and DJ are way to similar to work imo.

Dobson only likes to have a 6 who can do his defending, he dont like them having ball in hand

Hence why hes seen off a few partners

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:44 pm  

Bet Lynch wrote:

:lol:

Chase is a show pony, however I will take him cos he is better than what we have, stats are only half the story even I know that (for what it is worth a dobbin made my sig as a piiss take, and I love it as people like you think I don't know my rugby and rely on stats alone) however I do always think it is good to check the stats . I reckon you should start looking a bit more as your assessment of players on occasions is so far off the mark it is unreal eg Turner.

Then you should work on your understanding of them. You appear to have picked one stat in isolation (total assists) and taken that as proof that Dobson and Chase are about the same in that category. You appear to try and throw stats in as factual support of your opinion, but half the time they don't even say what you are claiming and do half the work of countering your own argument.

Turner. He's made the England Knights squad and somehow that's confirmation he's the next Mal Meninga.

And if you want a show pony, Dobson is a great choice. No doubting the qualities he does have, but showing up when the going gets tough and getting stuck in is not one of them.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:45 pm  

Bet Lynch wrote:

:lol:

Chase is a show pony.

Show pony would suggest he has no end product which is clearly wrong.

It did make me laugh on Saturday when he was running the ball and dummying and jinking in and out without a defender being able to lay a finger on him and the usual lot were screaming to "just get hold of him". Err the reason they can't get near him is because he is class and they have no idea what he's going to do.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:48 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Then you should work on your understanding of them. You appear to have picked one stat in isolation (total assists) and taken that as proof that Dobson and Chase are about the same in that category. You appear to try and throw stats in as factual support of your opinion, but half the time they don't even say what you are claiming and do half the work of countering your own argument.

Turner. He's made the England Knights squad and somehow that's confirmation he's the next Mal Meninga.

I could have used the other stats which show Dobbo in the better light, at the end of the day you have no evidence that Chase would have increased his stats in the 10 games he was suspended/banned. The stats are based on performance this season, simple.


I have never said he is the next Mal Meninga, however you have spent months using him as our scapegoat and claiming he is rubbish when he simply is not.

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:49 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

Show pony would suggest he has no end product which is clearly wrong.

It did make me laugh on Saturday when he was running the ball and dummying and jinking in and out without a defender being able to lay a finger on him and the usual lot were screaming to "just get hold of him". Err the reason they can't get near him is because he is class and they have no idea what he's going to do.

Yet the last time we played Cas he did nothing, where was his class then ? or indeed this class when he has played International ?

Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:50 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Then you should work on your understanding of them. You appear to have picked one stat in isolation (total assists) and taken that as proof that Dobson and Chase are about the same in that category. You appear to try and throw stats in as factual support of your opinion, but half the time they don't even say what you are claiming and do half the work of countering your own argument.

Turner. He's made the England Knights squad and somehow that's confirmation he's the next Mal Meninga.

And if you want a show pony, Dobson is a great choice. No doubting the qualities he does have, but showing up when the going gets tough and getting stuck in is not one of them.

Similar to Chase in an International shirt then