Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:31 am  

I know Ellis has come out and said the players only meeting isn't a sleight against Radford but I'm sceptical about this. Imo it indicates there's some kind of issue(s) that for one reason or another they felt they couldn't share with the coaches. That's not right because they have to be working together to fix things and the coaches need to know if the players (even if it's just one or two) are unhappy about something.

To be honest though, this should have been kept private. Radford should not have said what he did to the media. I really can't see what he was hoping to achieve by letting everyone know he and the coaches were kicked out of the changing room.

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:33 am  

Doc Brown wrote:

I said on another thread that there's plenty of blame to go around. During the 80 minutes of a game there's not a lot Radford can do. It's down to the players.

But it's not just about the 80 minutes on the pitch. It's about the training, the tactics and all the other preparation in-between. Radford and the coaches have to be held accountable there (and I'm not saying the players are blameless there either).

You'll get no argument from me mate

[Kosh]

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:28 am  

Doc Brown wrote:

I know Ellis has come out and said the players only meeting isn't a sleight against Radford but I think that's a load of bull manure.

Just to be clear, you are calling both Ellis and Taylor liars? Because while I'm also sceptical I hesitate to do that personally.

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:42 am  

Kosh wrote:

Just to be clear, you are calling both Ellis and Taylor liars? Because while I'm also sceptical I hesitate to do that personally.

Alright then I'll edit it to say sceptical then.

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:05 am  

It's players kind of in their own way absolving the coaching staff of blame and taking ownership of their own short comings. Hopefully they had a right good barney among themselves and got it all out!
This isn't even a big thing. Plenty of teams have done it in the past. Roosters did it last week
Tbf v cas and wigan individual errors/moments of incredible stupidity cost us points and as bad as it was the initial tactics the other nights were working. On another day would of been up 18.0. Lack of plan B was a worry but I think that all fell down with Talanoa off and all the positional changes due to that and the 2 halves each having the worst games they've had for us.
3 losses is truly dissapointing but that's the 1st genuinely bad performance so I'm not gonna wet myself over it just yet.
I suppose we'll see what the players are made of on Friday. Not so much in performance(must win tho) but attitude. Mentally they were weak on Thursday. Worst part of it all for me!!

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:42 am  

Doc Brown wrote:

I know Ellis has come out and said the players only meeting isn't a sleight against Radford but I'm sceptical about this. Imo it indicates there's some kind of issue(s) that for one reason or another they felt they couldn't share with the coaches. That's not right because they have to be working together to fix things and the coaches need to know if the players (even if it's just one or two) are unhappy about something.

To be honest though, this should have been kept private. Radford should not have said what he did to the media. I really can't see what he was hoping to achieve by letting everyone know he and the coaches were kicked out of the changing room.

For me it's a reflection that the players took responsibility and wanted to sort it out amongst them. No big deal for me and we only know about it because radford mentioned it to the press

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:54 am  

Not a big deal.for me. The players cert need to give us fans something to shout about against wakey

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:40 am  

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7793069

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7793069

[Kosh]

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:48 am  

Jake the Peg wrote: For me it's a reflection that the players took responsibility and wanted to sort it out amongst them. No big deal for me and we only know about it because radford mentioned it to the press Yup. The issue here is not so much the meeting as Radford blurting it out to the assembled press. Here's the YP reporter's take on it: http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... z42g8rbAh2

Jake the Peg wrote: For me it's a reflection that the players took responsibility and wanted to sort it out amongst them. No big deal for me and we only know about it because radford mentioned it to the press Yup. The issue here is not so much the meeting as Radford blurting it out to the assembled press. Here's the YP reporter's take on it: http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... z42g8rbAh2

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:54 am  

if players are having clear the air talks they are hardly going to air any grievence against the coaching staff if they are there in the dressing room with them