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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:34 pm  
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Chase has played with the best in the country at International level, he was not quality then

Sean Long failed at international level over a much longer period than Chase has. Did alright for Saints though.

Performances at half back for GB/England have little relation to how a player will go in SL.
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:44 pm  
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Where did I say he was not good ?

You claimed he is class, I would argue he is not but like mentioned he has some class touches. I have heard it all now surronded by players he had never played with before, you do know he played more than one international and trained before the games don't you ?


Slight difference between playing against Superleague opposition every week & having 3/4 seasons of experience at that level, to playing against Aus/NZ in your first international tournament. Plenty of other top class players have been poor against the Aussies too.

You often get involved in arguments like these surrounding the technicalities of RL, but each time you get shown up. It's probably down to your tactic of going onto the Opta stats on the SL website, finding a stat you think suits your argument ,and coming to a VERY basic conclusion (Chase's try assists here for example), without taking into account any other factors out of said players control.

Very one dimensional and shows a distinct lack of knowledge about how the game is played.
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:44 pm  
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Where did I say he was not good ?

You claimed he is class, I would argue he is not but like mentioned he has some class touches. I have heard it all now surronded by players he had never played with before, you do know he played more than one international and trained before the games don't you ?

Yeah your right a couple of weeks training and 3 or 4 games should be more than enough instinctively know your role within a team and how your team mates play and to develop that telepathic understanding with your team mates so you can replicate your club form. Elite sport is a piece of p1$$.
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:45 pm  
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Slight difference between playing against Superleague opposition every week & having 3/4 seasons of experience at that level, to playing against Aus/NZ in your first international tournament. Plenty of other top class players have been poor against the Aussies too.

You often get involved in arguments like these surrounding the technicalities of RL, but each time you get shown up. It's probably down to your tactic of going onto the Opta stats on the SL website, finding a stat you think suits your argument ,and coming to a VERY basic conclusion (Chase's try assists here for example), without taking into account any other factors out of said players control.

Very one dimensional and shows a distinct lack of knowledge about how the game is played.

Thanks for that Sandra :lol:
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:47 pm  
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Yeah your right a couple of weeks training and 3 or 4 games should be more than enough instinctively know your role within a team and how your team mates play and to develop that telepathic understanding with your team mates so you can replicate your club form. Elite sport is a piece of p1$$.


Bet has a Level 2 RL coaching badge don't you know?

Maybe Hull could get her in to teach Chase some '6 o'clock passing' or a 'punt kick'?
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:50 pm  
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Yeah your right a couple of weeks training and 3 or 4 games should be more than enough instinctively know your role within a team and how your team mates play and to develop that telepathic understanding with your team mates so you can replicate your club form. Elite sport is a piece of p1$$.

If he was a class as you claim it would be no problem for him. I watched an 18 yr number 6 in a trial game last week playing with players he had never played with before, now he was class and ran the show, that is my definition of class, a player who knows his role and can adapt that role in most situations.

I have not said I do not think Chase is good, I think he is good, however I do not think he is class and as good as some on here are making out, he was indeed last season MOS but I doubt he would be anywhere near it this year imo.
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:58 pm  
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If he was a class as you claim it would be no problem for him. I watched an 18 yr number 6 in a trial game last week playing with players he had never played with before, now he was class and ran the show, that is my definition of class, a player who knows his role and can adapt that role in most situations.

I have not said I do not think Chase is good, I think he is good, however I do not think he is class and as good as some on here are making out, he was indeed last season MOS but I doubt he would be anywhere near it this year imo.

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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:02 pm  
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If he was a class as you claim it would be no problem for him. I watched an 18 yr number 6 in a trial game last week playing with players he had never played with before, now he was class and ran the show, that is my definition of class, a player who knows his role and can adapt that role in most situations.

I have not said I do not think Chase is good, I think he is good, however I do not think he is class and as good as some on here are making out, he was indeed last season MOS but I doubt he would be anywhere near it this year imo.


There's a very good case to be made that Chase does indeed know the role he is best suited to and most capable of, and that it is actually Steve McNamara who is the one who is missing this.
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:05 pm  
SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the reigning MOS is crap.
Because he had very average games versus Oz & NZ proves that point
and as a result lets just buy dobbo who hasnt played in anything worthy of note, for any team worthy of note or done pretty much anything worthy of note but is a very good half!!!
all based on a level 2 badge and watching trialists
this gets better KEEP GOING GUYS
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Re: More rumours... : Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:07 pm  
Rangi chase is alongside tompkins probably the only 2 players in SL whom really have the X factor
Dobbo is a very good half who would not let us down and has been outstanding in a very average KR side similar to Holdsworth at Salford
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