Look on the previous page.

Says Dwyer to be announced Wednesday and an overseas second row announced soon.

Yes got my wires crossed and have amended the post.

He’d stroll into your team and some had them down as Grand Finalists this season



FC fans live in perennial hope, might be us to break the 4 team monopoly, next season

Tetrapoly… I guess.

Bit like your new signings for next season then

Oligopoly?

Heard we'd prioritised a second row as opposed to signing Walker a week or so ago. Which ties in with what Windy has said.



If Walker wasn't made of biscuit I'd sign him, saying that, he'd probably be first choice at Leeds if that was the case.

I admit he is excellent in attack when things are going well but disappears like many others in the team when the going gets tough. He then tries to throw wild passes and make basic mistakes. He is not good enough defensively for a full back and does not have the speed required. He would do much better if he concentrated on playing rugby rather that querying referee decisions and trying to wind up the opposition.



Show me where anyone at the club or Rovers supporters suggested we would get to the grand final. It was only deluded FC supporters such as yourself who raised the issue in a trolling way that commented on the possibility.

Struth, you lot are getting a player in Tex Hoy. Watch highlights of Wests vs Canberra today….

The only issue will be if he u turns now!

Their were issues before he signed of him wanting an NRL get out clause. Think they've been ironed out now.



I'm hopeful that he'll be a good un

We need to sign Jake up on 2/3 year contact ASAP if we want to keep him. If we cant agree a deal we need to gcash in on him. Its no good keeping him next year if he is going to go on a free at end of next season. That would be crazy but dafter things happen at FC.

Your chairman said last year's GF eliminator was the baseline for this year's expectations lol. Comfortably short of that sadly aren't you?#goingbackwards

Ok, so having managed to get into the playoffs last year we would obviously hope to do the same this year and yes that was not achieved. That’s a long way from saying we would be grand finalists. As usual you twist things to back up your argument. You never seem to let accuracy get in the way

You got to a Grand Final eliminator and a lot of people including your supporters and chairman stated they expected to go further fact. Even Sky pundits had you down to go well, even going as far as to say that Coote was the missing part of the jigsaw, that’s the reason they still bull you up when your on live



By the way as Saints fans once sung on the way home from the KC “ We’re Shiite and we know we are” trouble is it’s our turn for the fat lady to sing and she’s been singing it to you and your lot for nigh on 37 years. If you don’t like getting roasted don’t post it.

It's not a 'long way'. He suggested that the aim was to at least be 80 minutes away from the Grand Final.

No it's not. If the baseline is a GF eliminator then anything other than progress (a Grand Final) is either stagnation (another GF eliminator) or decline (failing to reach a GF eliminator, or worse failing to reach the play offs). I know a downward trajectory isn't comfortable, but that's the truth. No need to suggest an agenda, you've gone backwards this year and that's a fact.

How about this from Mr Pearson then.



In 2018 Adam Pearson said, ‘We’re going to completely refresh the squad, complacency has set in.’



“Complacency is about to have a bomb thrown at it the following year. ‘We will be challenging for the Grand Final next year - I’ve no doubt about that.’ The year after that: ‘The The Grand Final is the aim, definitely with the squad we’ve got.’ In 2021, ‘The fact remains that we have not performed to the standards we expect at this club. It will be addressed and we will make noticeable improvements for next season.’

Whataboutery





Just answer Mrs B's point re: Hudgel's aim for this season.

To be fair, if it wasn’t for whataboutery, strawmen, false dichotomies, reductio ad absurdum and so on our arguments would lack a bit of flavour. They’d be better… in the same way bran flakes are better for you than crunchy nut cornflakes.



I think the crunchy nuttiness of Keith’s whataboutery also deserves to be acknowledged. Made me smile, anyway.

The trouble is that Keith (and others) only raison d'etre is to come on here and snipe. You, on the other hand are turning into a bit of a psychologist and offering sensible answers (and that won't do).

We may have missed a target for one season but it was not a grand final whatever you and other deluded FC fans want to say. Yes that is disappointing not to have made the playoffs this year.



FC on the other hand have not met their target for four years. A very specific target. ‘We will be challenging for the Grand Final next year - I’ve no doubt about that.’ The year after that: ‘The Grand Final is the aim, definitely with the squad we’ve got.’ In 2021.



Since 2018 when Mr Pearson made that statement how many times have FC even made the playoffs never mind the grand final? FC’s failure over that period is woeful and reading the forums and talking to friends who support your team the fact is recognised by many black and white fans.



I suppose it makes you and others of your ilk feel a tad better feeing able to gloat over our trials and tribulations when the problems within you club are laid bare for the whole rugby league world to see.

Still not at woeful and not winning a major trophy since 1985 whilst we have won 4.



We just rightly have higher standards and ambitions than Rovers as we are the bigger club, that's why Rovers fans are happy with their season finishing at best 8th whilst we are disappointed with that.

At the end of the day both Hull clubs have failed in terms of SL success and the sport, the City and both clubs themselves need both clubs to be doing better.



Really not sure what the answers are but unless the players are cut from the squad that are causing issue it allows the rot to continue and infect the others and means we are stuck in perpetual turmoil.



Taylor, Houghton, Griffin, Gale for me should not be at the club next season moving forward which would mean paying off Taylor and Griffin, then not renewing any deals with Houghton and Gale. Jury is still out on Lane who really needs to up his game too as he's just not been at it this season but would give him the benefit of doubt next season with the removal of the 4 mentioned.



If the club give Houghton another year then AP, JC and BH need to give their heads a wobble as that is just rewarding systemic failure and again leaving the rot to continue to fester.

It's not us saying it. Hudgell said a GF eliminator was the baseline. You're sliding backwards.

You may have higher standards and ambitions but unfortunately for you in recents seasons you have been abject failures. There appears to be delusions of grandeur and a need to live off past glories. Maybe the players feed off the fans and feel they are better than they really are. That maybe why your club does not seem able to solve its present problems. In sport it’s the here and now that’s important. It must be a great comfort to you all that whilst regularly conceding 60 points you can look back on your cup wins. In SL you have won neither the league leaders shield nor the Championship despite all the years you have spent in the competition. You have achieved nothing more than the club you decry.