Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:44 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I think we should have a capital punishment discussion next to see who would re-introduce the death penalty

I imagine you would only want it for CEO's

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:53 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

That may be the case (although we have absolutely no evidence either way), but that wouldn't make his illness any less real. If you were a business person and you made a wrong/foolish decision (or several) that lead to the demise of your business you might become depressed about the matter. If you contributed to the break down of your marriage you could quite rightly say that it was, at least partly, self inflicted. It's still perfectly possible to become depressed about it.

The same goes for physical injuries. If you're rock climbing and break your back, you would still deserve the same consideration as a person who had broken their back any other way, wouldn't you?

This is, of course, rubbish. There is a massive difference between relaxing with friends and being at work. Depression manifests itself in a variety of different ways and it's simply ridiculous to suggest that sufferers should either stay at home all day or get themselves back to work.

so cinema and watching darts is helpful whereas training and playing rugby isnt,gotcha

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:55 pm  

hullbg wrote:

I just don't get what part of his job barring public appearances (Playing/signing autographs etc) would be seen as causing further problems towards a stress based illness.

It is difficult to answer on individual cases, however generally if a client is suffering an episode of stress/anxiety/depression they will be feeling very low, it is highly likely they are suffering with sleep & possible eating problems due to lack of appetite. The treatment will consist of a plan for the individual to feel strong again and resume their daily routines (work included), this can take a few weeks, months or years.They maybe offered medication and/or counselling also it is worth noting their employers often send for reports from their GP/mental health team.

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:57 pm  

dayvoz wrote:

so cinema and watching darts is helpful whereas training and playing rugby isnt,gotcha

No not if the training/playing rugby was one of the triggers for the individuals condition.

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:58 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I think we should have a capital punishment discussion next to see who would re-introduce the death penalty

Defiantly one for the off season, that is a very interesting debate. Also euthanasia generally produces a good debate.

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:59 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

No not if the training/playing rugby was one of the triggers for the individuals condition.

it wasnt

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:02 pm  

dayvoz wrote:

it wasnt

....Your not going to tell us you are his GP are you ?

Let us be honest here you do not know that, you are just putting 2 +2 together and getting 8!

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:10 pm  

dayvoz wrote:

so cinema and watching darts is helpful whereas training and playing rugby isnt,gotcha

Training and playing rugby is his job. So what you're saying is that leisure/relaxation is helpful and work is not. Which, in many cases, is indeed correct.

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:14 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

Training and playing rugby is his job. So what you're saying is that leisure/relaxation is helpful and work is not. Which, in many cases, is indeed correct.

I was under the assumption that work was not a contributory factor to the stress

[Kosh]

Re: Gleeson : Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:26 pm  

OmneFC wrote:

I was under the assumption that work was not a contributory factor to the stress

I've highlighted the relevant word for you that renders the rest of your sentence worthless.

And even if your assumption were correct, do you really think that someone who may well be medicated, not sleeping well, and not eating properly is in a fit condition to train for and play in a sport like pro RL?