Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:38 pm  

Old_Faithful_IAKW wrote:

We did . Obst

In all fairness he is a hooker, and he wasn't brought in till Wakey had their problems.

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:38 pm  

The Sam Tomkins try was fine, when a player is sliding the tackle is complete at the point where the players stops sliding so he's entitled to reach out and score.

The Obst try that was disallowed for obstruction was dubious. I know that the player can't use the dummy runner to shield himself but I thought the Wigan player went for the man deliberately to try to get the penalty rather than attempting to tackle the ball carrier.

: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:39 pm  

The right result but I feel a little bit hard done to. We didn't help ourselves and lacked some rub of the green.

Not seen it back on tv yet but the same old thing creeps into my head a lot of times - whilst decisions are often correct you can't help but wonder if they would be 'spotted' if it was the other way around.

Not sour grapes, as i said the right result, and just coming from the game it's easy to have a but if blinkers on (we are fans after all!)

Whoever said about the constant booing being embarrassing is spot on in my opinion too.

[Chris71]

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:39 pm  

hullbg wrote:

We struggle because we dont have a true halfback pairing. A lot will say well its not Agars fault Long is injured, but anyone who puts faith in a crock playing a full season is deluded. We should have brought in a backup for the inevitable Long injuries.

For me though we have played for long enough without a true halfback pairing to be able to have by now come up with a system thats works for us but we haven't and are so void of ideas and any creativity it begga's belief.

[Kosh]

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:39 pm  

hullbg wrote:

We struggle because we dont have a true halfback pairing. A lot will say well its not Agars fault Long is injured, but anyone who puts faith in a crock playing a full season is deluded. We should have brought in a backup for the inevitable Long injuries.

We did. Obst. As backup halves go he's not the worst, but we've had to rely on him so much that his limitations have really been shown up.

We would also have had Nicklas if not for his injury.

The halves are only part of the problem anyway.

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:39 pm  

The full length Richards try was a head high shot on Radders, hence the broken jaw, 12 point swing there for a start!!

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:39 pm  

Cherry.Pie wrote:

The Sam Tomkins try was fine, when a player is sliding the tackle is complete at the point where the players stops sliding so he's entitled to reach out and score.

The Obst try that was disallowed for obstruction was dubious. I know that the player can't use the dummy runner to shield himself but I thought the Wigan player went for the man deliberately to try to get the penalty rather than attempting to tackle the ball carrier.

Think it was one of those 50/50 calls that sometimes you get sometimes you dont.

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:41 pm  

FC Wembley 08 wrote:

The full length Richards try was a head high shot on Radders, hence the broken jaw, 12 point swing there for a start!!

yet never even shown on a video replay! hope fc look futher into this!

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:41 pm  

Kosh wrote:

We did. Obst. As backup halves go he's not the worst, but we've had to rely on him so much that his limitations have really been shown up.

We would also have had Nicklas if not for his injury.

The halves are only part of the problem anyway.

That was not foresight though was it? We brought nobody else in till the Wakey situation came up, yet any half decent coach would have seen last season we failed to deliver in the opposing 20 and brought in a suitable backup.

Re: Major talking points : Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:44 pm  

to be fair if we could convert possession in the danger zone into points we wouldn't be havin any of these conversations. lets hope our half backs next season can change that, and prey that mr agar doesn't train it out of them. thats of course if mr Agar is still here!!!