Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:33 pm  

Kosh wrote:

The irony is that nobody actually set out to break any rules to begin with. I actually feel sorry for Gleeson as he was given incorrect advice - albeit second hand - and didn't think he was doing anything wrong.

Its quite scary that one persons advice can potentially ruin one or more careers. What if he had (did?) give the same advice to any number of players? Perhaps clubs should put in place a second opinion to cover themselves even if that's someone at the RFL, external practice or even another club.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:34 pm  

So does this mean that Sean Long was also using OxiElite Pro after he was given the OK from Cooper??

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:39 pm  

Wilde 3 wrote:

So does this mean that Sean Long was also using OxiElite Pro after he was given the OK from Cooper??

It certainly seems that way, why else would he ask Cooper about it if not.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:42 pm  

Sean Long really was an inspired signing for your club

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:42 pm  

hullbg wrote:

It certainly seems that way, why else would he ask Cooper about it if not.

Lucky for him he was injured a lot and didnt play enough games whereby he could have been tested then!

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:43 pm  

Pookie wrote:

Its quite scary that one persons advice can potentially ruin one or more careers. What if he had (did?) give the same advice to any number of players? Perhaps clubs should put in place a second opinion to cover themselves even if that's someone at the RFL, external practice or even another club.

Was just thinking the same thing. The incompetence of the three involved could have already had an affect on the rugby community with more players (possibly) using it.

[Kosh]

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:44 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

I've read it and my comment isn't daft. One brain dead moron who couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website passes on a banned supplement to his brain dead moron mate who also couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website, all under the watch of a third brain dead moron who couldn't be bothered to spend 5 seconds checking the WADA website (or decided he would ignore what it says).

Long DID do something wrong - he was using a banned substance which he hadn't checked out, then gave it to his mate which has resulted in him losing his job.

Feel very sorry for Glees though - clearly not the brightest and it's cost him throughout his career.

Long had the supplement cleared by the relevant person at the club. It was Cooper who made the mistake.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:48 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Long had the supplement cleared by the relevant person at the club. It was Cooper who made the mistake.

Long and Gleeson played alongside someone who, in a VERY high profile way, advertised that it is a player's responsibility to check what he is taking and not to rely on club staff.

Conditioner - take this
Player - what is it?
Conditioner - It's X
Player - I'll take it tomorrow once I've checked it out, or I'll pull out my iphone and check it out on the WADA app

Tomorrow comes, player doesn't take it, conditioner gets sacked, player gets on with his career.

Players are educated about their responsibilities in this respect ad infinitum. Gleeson is a fool - doubly so if he's taking ANYTHING handed to him by Sean Long without checking it out!

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:52 pm  

http://drugfreesportrec.blogspot.com/20 ... amine.html Bit more info on MHA.

http://drugfreesportrec.blogspot.com/20 ... amine.html Bit more info on MHA.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:59 pm  

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