Re: Ben Thaler : Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:17 am  

For the neutral perspective, I had some York Knights fans sat behind me last night and I could hear them describe the refereeing as "biased" on several occasions (biased in Wigan's favour) and "at least it's some consolation that the refereeing is as bad at this as it is in our league".

So it's not just Hull fans feeling this.

Re: Ben Thaler : Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:23 am  

The PTB was an utter joke from within a few minutesof the start of the game. Deliberately holding playets in, moving miles off the mark, delaying releasing a tackled player and Thaler was horrendous with his balance on policing it, or rather lack of.
Still cannot fathom how those two 'knock ons' that went backwards were called such.

Re: Ben Thaler : Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:46 am  

The perspective of the game is sometimes hard to judge from a seat in the stands.

I have waited until I watched the back on TV before making judgement.

Fan want consistency. We did not get that last night. The Ruck was not officiated the same. Moving off the mark just doesnt get penalised and therefore is prone to abuse.

With the benefit of listening to the audio of the referee and the VR it does give some clarity on some of the decisions, but it was more of a case for trying to justify then rather then being correct.

What appeared to be a trip on Ellis was not looked at. The VR could easily have been used to clarify this.

The Minichello no try (fair enough, he knocked on), but to restart with a Wigan scrum? Thaler (and the commentary team ) tried to state that Williams made the ball go backwards, then changed to "the ball came out on impact" Well, for as many season as I can remember, that was classed as a loose carry and therefore a knock on by the ball carrier.

moments earlier, similar situation, Bateman spills the ball on impact with the ground whilst still moving. That is a free play and not as described tackle complete.

The officiating was poor last night but not as poor as Wigans turnout. I dont buy the travel excuse. I distinctly remember a play off game at KC (when Horne nearly got us the win in hte last seconds) where wigan just about filled the North stand, probably twice the number of fans than they brought last night and a further distance. Truth is, there fans are as sick of watching Wanes negative style as the rest of us.

Re: Ben Thaler : Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:48 pm  

Also looks like a clear forward pass from williams to isa for their 2nd try

Re: Ben Thaler : Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:06 pm  

Having just watched the game again I'm really disappointed at the blatant bias shown by referee Ben Thaler. It almost like it's programed into him. I eventually lost count of the times he gave Wigan the benefit of the doubt or just ignored offences whilst constantly giving decisions against Hull in similar situations. Despite winning, displays like this by officials really create a sense of disillusionment and frustration for the fans and spoil some of the enjoyment of the game. Consistency is key for the game and the RFL must address the issue of the so called big sides, particularly Wigan and Leeds who are allowed to push the boundaries of sportsmanship beyond what is acceptable!

Re: Ben Thaler : Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:38 pm  

On reflection strange work by Benny.

He didn't go out there to favour but ended up doing so with some incredible calls.

Not sure who had a worse game - Sam or Benny but poop happens. Maybe he'll be better next time but he needs to be even on the wrestle. Much more even.

Re: Ben Thaler : Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:54 pm  

Don't think we got 1 50/50 call last night unlike wigan who had nearly all given their way

Credit should go yo the team for beating thaler too lol

Re: Ben Thaler : Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:29 am  

Staffs FC wrote:

Ball steal on mini on 76 mins was a good one.

"knock on" benny cries.

Nearly made me throw my 4 year old on the pitch that one ha, thalers last opportunity to give wigan and the rfl the game. Watching back didnt think he was as bad, apart from a couple of
Blatant decisions to get wigan back in the game! Ie, mini knock on and the williams no knock on, although that could of been vr decision. Fucccckem anywayway, Wembley here we come

[Mild Rover]

Re: Ben Thaler : Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:13 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Also looks like a clear forward pass from williams to isa for their 2nd try

Jake the Peg wrote:

maybe he just hates rovers and hull like everyone else does

Update underlined.

Re: Ben Thaler : Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:59 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Also looks like a clear forward pass from williams to isa for their 2nd try

You're right Jake, it definitely was. Often happens with a double pump pass and so it did for this one. In the end it didn't matter but that could have been a blatant game changing mistake by Thaler.