[Chris71]

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:00 am  

HU8HFC wrote:

I've backed Hodgson from the moment he was announced but even I cant help but think the pressure is well and truly on him now. No problem with players having a holiday during the international break, but how will they conduct themselves? It all comes back to the culture of the club. Go on the lash most of the week, come back into training Monday and then wonder why we are blowing out our arses come half time on the next game back. Saw it at Saints, saw it again at Wakey, probably will see it at Wire next week.

Big decisions to be made by BH, does he stay loyal to Gale/Reynolds and just hope they eventually click, or does he take the risk and give youth a go.

To give sympathy to the halves, they aren't the only ones who underperformed on Saturday. Shaul is a shadow of the player he was, no confidence, looks off the pace. As for Houghton, I won't go on, I could rant all day.

Judging by his interview in regards to Gale/Reynolds it seems he's going to carry on trying with those two

Shaul I agree looked rusty at FB but I thought he did OK, even put a nice cut out pass for us to score and in fairness he is probably the best option to cover FB.

As for Houghton I thought in the first 20/25 mins he had been pretty good solid in defence as usual but also got us forward with some smart scoots but instead of then giving him a breather especially in that heat and with 2 hookers on the bench we simply burnt him out playing him the full 40 of the first half, after halftime he was effectively done. That's not Houghtons fault it's down to poor use of the bench and interchanges.

I would certainly hope after the poor level of performance again that BH will finally give some of the young players a chance over the next few weeks as we have seen very little this season from 2 of the most experienced players in the side when they've been on the field. I just wonder who is responsible in training and in game situations in regards to our last play options as on Saturday they were embarrassing as we looked to have no idea.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:19 am  

HU8HFC wrote:

Big decisions to be made by BH, does he stay loyal to Gale/Reynolds and just hope they eventually click, or does he take the risk and give youth a go.
.

I can answer that one for him now. They aren’t going to click, they aren’t interested. If they haven’t clicked yet they aren’t going to.

But it’s not just attack that bothers me. Reynolds defence is appalling. That must be down to attitude as you don’t get to play SOO if you can’t tackle? Opposition get past him with ease and if not he invariably gives away a penalty.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:25 am  

Chris71 wrote:

Judging by his interview in regards to Gale/Reynolds it seems he's going to carry on trying with those two

Shaul I agree looked rusty at FB but I thought he did OK, even put a nice cut out pass for us to score and in fairness he is probably the best option to cover FB.

As for Houghton I thought in the first 20/25 mins he had been pretty good solid in defence as usual but also got us forward with some smart scoots but instead of then giving him a breather especially in that heat and with 2 hookers on the bench we simply burnt him out playing him the full 40 of the first half, after halftime he was effectively done. That's not Houghtons fault it's down to poor use of the bench and interchanges.

I would certainly hope after the poor level of performance again that BH will finally give some of the young players a chance over the next few weeks as we have seen very little this season from 2 of the most experienced players in the side when they've been on the field. I just wonder who is responsible in training and in game situations in regards to our last play options as on Saturday they were embarrassing as we looked to have no idea.

The problem with Houghton is that he can't adapt himself to becoming a spelled hooker. Roby is a prime example of a former 80 minute hooker adapting his game, accepting he doesn't have the engine of his younger self and taking a breather. This would be the perfect way to give the likes of Lovodua/Balmorth time to ease their ways into the roll but we just can't seem to do it.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:31 am  

Chris71 wrote:

Is that the team are unfit or down to the way they play in terms of penalties/set restarts that we give away and the rotation/use of the bench?

I must admit that I have often wondered about the training as while I've been out and about with I've quite often driven past the training ground at various times of the day and rarely seen anyone out on the field.

From the outside as a fan it still seems as though there isn't enough responsibility or accountability taken for poor performances and its still cosy, is it that BH is just too nice a guy?
As much as some have said its the players that are committing the penalties and giving away set restarts and yes they are but ultimately its the Head Coach and coaching team to address issues of the play of which ill discipline is one and one that never seems to go away.
One other point of note is that a couple of times when interviewed BH in terms certain aspects of play he has said along the lines of he lets/leaves the players to do that, I just can't seem to find the interviews now.

The thing about penalties and set restarts, and I know I’m biased, but we seem to get pinged for things that other teams get away with?

Catalan were taking an age to clear the ruck but seemed to get away with it apart from just before half-time. I’m sure Mcillorum came flying into a tackle on a grounded player and got away with it. A couple of the penalties for high tackles were not high?

It just seems every little thing we do gets penalised?

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:34 am  

davey41 wrote:

The thing about penalties and set restarts, and I know I’m biased, but we seem to get pinged for things that other teams get away with?

Sao in particular seems to have been picked out by refs as somebody who has just got to breathe on a player and he gives away a set restart.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:35 am  

al283 wrote:

shoving 5 or 6 youngsters in would be madness & probably set them back.

Do think the time is right to retire Josh, he is a joke with a ridiculous & appalling tackle technique - surely BH cant support this ? Non existent in attack too, will rank as one of our worst overseas signings ever.

Do think JJ needs to go back to reserves - Balmforth looks class. Lovodua back to 6 ? Wynn to FB ? Cam Scott centre ?

For me Gale & Shaul running out of time, love Jamie & at least he cares and is trying but sadly his best days are behind him.

Next weeks team will be fascinating, BH needs to put a team out that will win.

I'd be happy with 2 young players out of Litten, Balmforth and Hookem, I think our team could carry those two and am convinced we wouldn't be any worse off than we are now.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:36 am  

Rocknrolla69er wrote:

I'd say he'd abit too nice as someone else said.

He's trying to play players into form which isn't working.

He stated he should of trusted Hookem sooner yet the lad can't get a game over 2 terribly performing half's.

Gale can't put a kick Into touch more than 8 yards down the pitch, can't kick a goal and can't make a pass, Hookem would play better.

Lovodua has put in man of the match performances at 6, yet Hodgson again is persisting with a half in Reynolds who's basically here for a jolly, the ridiculous tackling where he's trying to flatten players and bouncing off or giving pens away for high shots is cringe worthy now.

Balmforth top young hooker, tipped for big things, can't even get on the bench ahead of Jordan Johnstone who's deemed not good enough, Hodgson would rather flog an aging Houghton for 80 minutes.

Shaul another who's not good enough any more, way off the pace yesterday and most times he's appeared, deemed not good enough yet starts other young prospects. Mcintosh and Swift can cover and we have Barron who can play wing who's meant to be lightning and he's about 6ft2 offering an aerial threat out wide. No can't pick that.

Zero creativity, without Connor but absolutely no bravery or trust from Hodgson in giving hungry talented young players a chance.

Been baffled by a lot of team selections but bottom line is Hodgson isn't brave enough to pick the academy lads.

For me we need an experienced coach who will also demand consistency and performances.

Excellent post

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:40 am  

Ben Macs injury really couldn't have come at a worse time for him and the team, it's clear BH rates him and you'd like to think he would be getting selected ahead of Reynolds or Gale.

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:00 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Excellent post

Cheers Dave

We l see what the next fixture brings in regards to selection. But if Lovoduas not at 6, then the guys lost the plot.

I'd be quite happy if we got rid now, some will saytoo soon, but as u say too many head scratching team selections, its as if he's not learning from mistakes.

Still abit of a holiday camp at hull

[Chris71]

Re: Uber for Brett : Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:26 pm  

Rocknrolla69er wrote:

Cheers Dave

We l see what the next fixture brings in regards to selection. But if Lovoduas not at 6, then the guys lost the plot.

I'd be quite happy if we got rid now, some will saytoo soon, but as u say too many head scratching team selections, its as if he's not learning from mistakes.

Still abit of a holiday camp at hull

Said pretty much the same on the game thread in that there still appears to be little in the way of responsibility or accountability in terms of player performance and all still seems to comfy and cozy for players. Feels like the tail is still wagging to dog and my worry is that BH just doesn't have enough authority over the players or is just too nice a guy.