Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:30 pm  

Im sure Hock got less matchs when he pushed the ref, think the RFL should release the transcript, if it's that bad fair enough, but I can't imagine anything he said warrants that kind of ban, unless he used discrimination language in any way.

[Chris71]

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:33 pm  

Armavinit wrote:

You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.

The only time you hear anything is when Carlos goes to speak to Kendal and you can just hear Kendal say 'dissent' and that's about it.
It's to be hoped the any recordings / transcripts are available to club which show a grade F is justifiable, as unless Griffin used derogatory terms or some extreme language F seems excessive. Would calling Kendal a joke be classed a Grade F in all seriousness?

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:50 pm  

Questioning the integrity - I read as accused him of being a cheat ? That’s all he had to say, don’t need to swear at him to question his integrity. Hopefully plead guilty, learn from it and move on.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:16 pm  

Armavinit wrote:

You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.

Youre an F ing joke Not you Armavinit
thats what was said

[Chris71]

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:17 pm  

Seeing as Kaide Ellis' offence has been graded as D then perhaps Griffin would have been better advised to have stuck the nut on Kendal rather than question his integrity............ just saying

It just shows the disparity in grading for offences when a head butt is considerably less of a grading all things considered.
I just hope that whatever was actually said by Griffin and the whole process of the tribunal there is total transparency.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:19 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

The only time you hear anything is when Carlos goes to speak to Kendal and you can just hear Kendal say 'dissent' and that's about it.
It's to be hoped the any recordings / transcripts are available to club which show a grade F is justifiable, as unless Griffin used derogatory terms or some extreme language F seems excessive. Would calling Kendal a joke be classed a Grade F in all seriousness?

If the club thought there was any mileage in appealing i think they would but they know the facts
he has no defence

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:20 pm  

bonaire wrote:

If the club thought there was any mileage in appealing i think they would but they know the facts
he has no defence

They still might appeal and put a case forward tonight.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:22 pm  

Irregs#16 wrote:

They still might appeal and put a case forward tonight.

doubt it may then get a grade X if there was one

[Chris71]

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:25 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Armavinit wrote:

You have to remember that the ref, linesmen and video ref are wired for sound together, so whatever was said was witnessed by all of the officials. Grade F isn’t to be taken lightly and wouldn’t have been referred to tribunal unless they have either witnesses or corroborative recordings. I’m amazed the BBC didn’t have it on screen but I haven’t watched it. Didn’t they have Kendall’s voice over on the show? I would guess 8 matches if found guilty, especially after the Cas incident.

Youre an F ing joke Not you Armavinit
thats what was said

If that is what was actually said then I'm sorry but that does not warrant a grade F charge.

If this is the situation then it just sums up how out of touch Kendal is with the game and lacks any ability to effectively communicate with players in game situation when tempers, adrenaline and occasions are high.
All he had to do to calm the situation down was talk to the player instead of being unapproachable like he was as though he is above everyone.

Re: On to Saints in the League : Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:33 pm  

My mate around the club has said that as far as he’s aware griffin said he felt that that saint fans were influencing Kendall too much and when he got yellow he said something around “loving joke”