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Re: London at home : Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:53 pm  
If Houghton is fit I'd play him at loose forward and keep Brown at hooker. Save moving people around and Mint is better there than our usual 13s and we can keep our props at prop where we need props propping.
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am  
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Expectations have got that low in parts of our fan base now that 'having a dig' is all that matters, you need to have a dig and also have ability... depressing times.


Good post from chris71. As for players having a dig , I meant on Friday the kids including Lane had a dig. The total tackles he made are far above what he’s done previously.
Lane hasn’t been great the past 5 seasons but who has in the current squad. We’ve had hammerings season after season.
Discipline ? Where were our overseas signing on Friday ?
Pele 4 matches , Ese 2
Yet no one criticises our big earners..
I could criticise every hull player but what does it achieve..no one has stood out. To read criticism that yeah he made 54 but missed 2. He was in a team with young kids against a bigger more talented team.
I speak to other fans and it’s only on here that I hear so many negative posts.

I will continue to defend on here players that give it a go.
Some on here would prefer Jake connor , Savellio Griffin back.
They’re not exactly ripping it up now either.
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:43 am  
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Good post from chris71. As for players having a dig , I meant on Friday the kids including Lane had a dig. The total tackles he made are far above what he’s done previously.
Lane hasn’t been great the past 5 seasons but who has in the current squad. We’ve had hammerings season after season.
Discipline ? Where were our overseas signing on Friday ?
Pele 4 matches , Ese 2
Yet no one criticises our big earners..
I could criticise every hull player but what does it achieve..no one has stood out. To read criticism that yeah he made 54 but missed 2. He was in a team with young kids against a bigger more talented team.
I speak to other fans and it’s only on here that I hear so many negative posts.

I will continue to defend on here players that give it a go.
Some on here would prefer Jake connor , Savellio Griffin back.
They’re not exactly ripping it up now either.


Think its only fair to point out that most, if not all on here condemned Pele for his total idiocy at the time and since, for me Ese'ese gets a bit of slack as I felt at the time and still do that it wasn't worthy of a ban, same with Ligi and even more so when seeing others who got off scot free.

I would think its fair to say the part of your post I've highlighted in bold is the most likely reason as to why there is criticism but the club should not be immune to criticism either due to the poor retention and contracts handed out which has been effectively rewarding poor performance.

As you say about Connor, Griffin & Savelio, I think that shows not just a level of mediocrity we've had at the club but also that we've held on to players too long, as how many players other than those that have retired have actually ripped up since they left?

Back on to the London game

I'm pretty optimistic of getting a result on Sunday though no doubt it wont be an easy game in the least due to 'mitigating' factors (sorry couldn't resist usingt the RFL's buzz word) but I was heartened by the fight and togetherness shown on the field at Warrington.

If they 17 that take to the field on Sunday play with the same effort and desire, we remain 13 v 13 for 80 mins and remain disciplined then despite everything we should get the 2pts.
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:34 am  
Doesn't sound like Carlos will be back this week. Guess it's Darnell and Litten in the centres?

I'd try and keep Okunbor at SR for this game. Hoping Staveley gets another shot too
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:37 am  
Liam Moore is the video ref, what can possibly go wrong :lol: :lol:
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:41 am  
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Liam Moore is the video ref, what can possibly go wrong :lol: :lol:


Probably be fine, as I predicted they will go mad first couple of games, the Brown incident has probably sped up the process along with the players call last night and they will relax again


Hasn't helped us much though, with 3 sending offs and multiple bans.
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:45 am  
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Probably be fine, as I predicted they will go mad first couple of games, the Brown incident has probably sped up the process along with the players call last night and they will relax again


Hasn't helped us much though, with 3 sending offs and multiple bans.


Interesting piece from the meeting last night, clubs have been told to stop players stopping the game looking a the ref to go to the screen for penalties, that's one of our neighbours game plan gone to pot haha
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:45 am  
boardwalkempire4 wrote:
Good post from chris71. As for players having a dig , I meant on Friday the kids including Lane had a dig. The total tackles he made are far above what he’s done previously.
Lane hasn’t been great the past 5 seasons but who has in the current squad. We’ve had hammerings season after season.
Discipline ? Where were our overseas signing on Friday ?
Pele 4 matches , Ese 2
Yet no one criticises our big earners..
I could criticise every hull player but what does it achieve..no one has stood out. To read criticism that yeah he made 54 but missed 2. He was in a team with young kids against a bigger more talented team.
I speak to other fans and it’s only on here that I hear so many negative posts.

I will continue to defend on here players that give it a go.
Some on here would prefer Jake connor , Savellio Griffin back.
They’re not exactly ripping it up now either.


Absolutely nonsense about not critising high earner player, look at Carlos and previously Reynolds, Evans etc.

Also many fans have been critical about those players who have got bans.

Facts remind Lane isn't good enough based on the last two years and has been average the last two games, along with many others.
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:46 am  
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Interesting piece from the meeting last night, clubs have been told to stop players stopping the game looking a the ref to go to the screen for penalties, that's one of our neighbours game plan gone to pot haha


Video refs at either game won't help, no way would Brown have been set off without a video reply.
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Re: London at home : Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:03 am  
Dave K. wrote:
number 6 wrote:
Liam Moore is the video ref, what can possibly go wrong :lol: :lol:


Probably be fine, as I predicted they will go mad first couple of games, the Brown incident has probably sped up the process along with the players call last night and they will relax again


Hasn't helped us much though, with 3 sending offs and multiple bans.


Don't be so sure. After listening the RL podcast with the Director of Operations in Hicks I was taken a back when Kev Brown asked a straight forward question in regards the on field decisions which was 'Can't ref's use common sense' to which Hicks replied along the lines of 'No, as your common sense is not the same as mine'. Though surely you would expect professional referees to have a similar and consistent level of common sense in terms the mechanics of the sport that they are applying the laws too?

What was also interesting is the onus and accountability is still all very much on the players shoulders alone from Hicks interview who to be honest sounded out of his depth, it was all very much head in the sands and ignorance/acceptance of the issues they have created along with excuses.
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