Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:50 am  

Whilst everyone loves to be able to say "I told you so" (I could start a long list myself) I'm not entirely convinced that this somehow proves Rule was completely useless in all areas of his job. Mainly because nobody actually knows what his job description actually was, his job title is meaningless if he was just the puppet as many have claimed. The current scandal shows that he was a complete numpty on this occasion, that is all. Whilst some of the praise for him may have been misguided in the past, but entirely understandable on face value in IMO, it's still a leap to now claim that you somehow know all about the day to day running of the club and was able to evaluate Rules performance during his whole tenure. Regardless of any of that I feel a lot safer knowing who we have running the club now.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:51 am  

Shouldn't Gleeson be taking action against his best mate for suppling the pills

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:54 am  

FC MONK wrote:

Shouldn't Gleeson be taking action against his best mate for suppling the pills

I reckon Long has a squeaky bum at the moment

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:59 am  

Love the way some people are turning this into some kind of personal glory thread, haha.

Plenty of people doubted Kath, Agar and Rule. Is everything they did wrong or bad? No of course not they had some successes and some failures. As many fans have said for some time changes were required and now they have been made we should be looking forward.

Still if some egos are in need of a boost....best get those socks out.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:21 am  

I am sure I will get shot down in flames for this..and have to say I don't necessarily take the view myself.. but while we are now painting a picture of Rule as some sort of pariah going to any lengths to somehow save his own ass as CEO of the club is it just possible he wrongly got involved because he just wanted to save somebody's career after a total cock up?

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:31 am  

How nice of Pookie to take this discussion out of the playground and post an interesting comment. The trouble with trying to pull the wool over the eyes of an official body like this is that generally, the truth comes out eventually.

[Mild Rover]

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:33 am  

Pookie wrote:

I am sure I will get shot down in flames for this..and have to say I don't necessarily take the view myself.. but while we are now painting a picture of Rule as some sort of pariah going to any lengths to somehow save his own ass as CEO of the club is it just possible he wrongly got involved because he just wanted to save somebody's career after a total cock up?

Aye. When you deal with spin as routinely as he did, the lines get blurred I reckon. It looks like incompetence and maybe arrogance to me, rather than malevolence. Honesty and straightforwardness have come to be seen as for the naive and old fashioned in certain quarters. Spin works, but if you go too far, even for reasons you believe to be good, you can still come a cropper spectacularly. Blair and WMD, while obviously on a massively different scale, being the prime example of the malaise. IMO.

Largepants - It's difficult to know if the truth generally comes out. We don't ever know about the undetected lies.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:39 am  

There is more bad news to come for your "great" club in the next week or so, should be very pleasant reading for the red and white half of the city! All the best

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:41 am  

Pookie wrote:

I am sure I will get shot down in flames for this..and have to say I don't necessarily take the view myself.. but while we are now painting a picture of Rule as some sort of pariah going to any lengths to somehow save his own ass as CEO of the club is it just possible he wrongly got involved because he just wanted to save somebody's career after a total cock up?

It's fair to say that his actions actually scuppered any chance of self-preservation rather than saved his skin.

As was asked a few times last night, 'Why do it?'. There was nothing to be gained. If he was looking to save his own skin, he'd have fed Gleeson to the wolves. The only motivation I can see was that the board saw Gleeson as paramount to Agar's 'resurgence', Rule decided to try to protect him, and it all went mammaries up.

Either that or others were complicit, which would open a whole different black hole.

Re: UKDA Confirm Hull FC bans - link : Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:44 am  

willowred wrote:

There is more bad news to come for your "great" club in the next week or so, should be very pleasant reading for the red and white half of the city! All the best

Hmmm, really?

I suppose its our turn after what your lots have been up to.

Hows the credit rating this coming year?