Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:34 am  

So players with one year left on their contracts are being offered to other clubs

Who do we have with one year left then?

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:45 am  

Sebasteeno wrote:

So players with one year left on their contracts are being offered to other clubs

Who do we have with one year left then?

Sneyd
Mint
Bowden
Fonua (think the 3rd year of his is an option on our part)
Shaul?

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:01 am  

Johnstone has another year left as well I think.

In previous years I’d have been pleased AP was being pro-active
Feels very “meh” this time though. Been here before!

[Chris71]

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:04 am  

It seems its not just words from AP this time around with an apparent intent to clear out and make changes with players being offered to other clubs. I would imagine that BH will have had a big say as to who those players are, he has seen and worked with them all and will know without doubt who is prepared to push for that extra 1% for the team and who isn't. Certainly be interesting to see what develops in the close season in terms of player outgoings and incomings.

Its clear that the club is not getting anywhere near value for money from the current playing squad and since Motu left we have ended up once again with an unbalanced squad.

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:08 am  

Chris71 wrote:

It seems its not just words from AP as there is a real intent to clear out and make changes with players being offered to other clubs. I would imagine that BH will have had a big say as to who those players are, he has seen and worked with them all and will know without doubt who is prepared to push for that extra 1% for the team and who isn't. Certainly be interesting to see what develops in the close season in terms of player outgoings and incomings.

Its clear that the club is not getting anywhere near value for money from the current playing squad and since Motu left we have ended up once again with an unbalanced squad.

Really hope you’re right. I suppose the difference could be that this time a (relatively) new coach is involved, who has a more detached view.

[Chris71]

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:28 am  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

Chris71 wrote:

It seems its not just words from AP as there is a real intent to clear out and make changes with players being offered to other clubs. I would imagine that BH will have had a big say as to who those players are, he has seen and worked with them all and will know without doubt who is prepared to push for that extra 1% for the team and who isn't. Certainly be interesting to see what develops in the close season in terms of player outgoings and incomings.

Its clear that the club is not getting anywhere near value for money from the current playing squad and since Motu left we have ended up once again with an unbalanced squad.

Really hope you’re right. I suppose the difference could be that this time a (relatively) new coach is involved, who has a more detached view.

AP in the past has said things when his emotions are high as although he's the owner he's as passionate as us the fans and feels the pain and probably more so in terms of outlay etc. Though previously I don't recall these actions being taken and do feel this was due in part to the current coach at the time.

I remember BH wanted to change the ethos and mentality and said its about the extra 1% from each player to give to the team. I think he has given the whole squad the opportunity to show what they are made of and sadly as is all too familiar as the pressure builds we just capitulate towards the end of a season.

As you say BH has a relatively detached view which will help him look objectively and advise AP on what needs to be done.

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:41 am  

Players offered to other clubs, wonder who, got to be contracted players and not the ones who have signed recently.

I'd guess at Fonua and Bowden.

Maybe Shaul, Houghton and Sneyd.

All big earners who haven't performed the last couple of years.

Would also release Reynolds, although all of these depend of if their are players to replace them.

If we could get rid of Fonua, Bowden and either Sneyd or Reynolds I think it would give is some quota spots and cash.

Would clubs take these though, Cas or newly promoted club might take Fonua, but we may have to pay towards his salary.

Think Wigan or Cas would take Sneyd.

Think we have to hope Radford fancies a few of these.

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:59 am  

Think realistically, I'd say Bowden and Johnstone will be the two most movable players. Both have wages that other clubs may be able to fit into their budgets, whereas Fonua wage is ridiculous.

Also Hodgson will of no doubt identified hooker and Prop as two properties to improve, so common sense says you move players on who are surplus in these positions.

I think we l have enough cap currently to be able to sign a player or we have signed 1 but not announced, if we can move bowden/Johnstone I'd expect those 2s combined wage would allow us to sign another decent standard player for the pivots

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:16 am  

Can see it being very difficult in the current financial climate to offload players to other clubs, especially if we’ve given them big contracts.

Plus other clubs know we’re not in a strong bargaining position if we’re desperate to offload.

Re: What now? : Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:30 am  

Saints are the bench mark, they have won two grand finals, the cup this year and have a great chance of winning the GF again this year.

But they dont sit on this and keep the same squad, they freshen it up, release older players on big contracts and bring in new overseas players and trust their youth players to fill other positions and their squad.