Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:15 am  

MrPhilb wrote:

Because the other 11 on the pitch haven't performed like they should. It was 6-0 after 67 minutes so to say you lost the forward battle all night is ridiculous

It may have been 6-0 but only due to our defence. Look at where the game was played, our half. Possession stats for the first half alone was 65-35% and our first set of 6 in their half was after 30 mins.

Watch the game.

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:17 am  

PAUL M wrote:

[Watch the game.]

What??...do you think we have masochistic tendencies Paul??

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:18 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

They'll be a point behind us tomorrow despite the Mason and Cockayne fiascos, Dobson and Newton out for stretches and unsettling talk about Morgan going. Green/Dobson > Obst/Horne, IMO.

We've had no traumas to deal with then? No injuries? No coach issues?

As a pair KR's halves are better, no doubt. But to suggest with them on the pitch we would have won the game is pure fantasy for a poor troll.

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:18 am  

barton baird wrote:

What??...do you think we have masochistic tendencies Paul??

Not again

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:20 am  

PAUL M wrote:

We've had no traumas to deal with then? No injuries? No coach issues?

As a pair KR's halves are better, no doubt. But to suggest with them on the pitch we would have won the game is pure fantasy for a poor troll.

No we have not had any traumas, our injuries have been what most teams would expect to deal with and the club are fully supportive of our coach (unfortunately)...No reasons why we should not have produced the goods really.

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:23 am  

MrPhilb wrote:

Because the other 11 on the pitch haven't performed like they should. It was 6-0 after 67 minutes so to say you lost the forward battle all night is ridiculous

Apart from the fact Leeds bombed about 6-7 chances and we made 1(ish). Any other night they'd have been 20+ up at half time.

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:24 am  

berrigans bitch wrote:

No we have not had any traumas, our injuries have been what most teams would expect to deal with and the club are fully supportive of our coach (unfortunately)...No reasons why we should not have produced the goods really.

Dobson was injured which affected them badly, likewise with Long. The pressure has been on Agar all season, much more than it has Morgan.

Not saying we should have not produced more as we should have done. I am talking about the comment that had Rovers halves played we would have won the game, it's garbage.

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:27 am  

PAUL M wrote:

We've had no traumas to deal with then? No injuries? No coach issues?

On the injury front we've had a miracle season IMO and virtually no injuries apart from Long who we can't say we've missed desperately as he's never strung a decent set of games together for us. For Rovers, everything revolves round Dobson with Newton their 2nd most important player and their win ratio without them was testament to this. You can't compare the humiliation of the Mason saga and associated de-registration of Dobson to any "trauma" for us. We binned off Tansey but got Phelps. Gleeson was pure opportunism that might have given us some upside, but hasn't.

In terms of the coach, all Agar has ever had from the club is 100% unshakeable support in the public domain. Hudgell's in the dressing room at Rovers more than the kitman, undermining the coach and giving public ultimatums of winning the next 4 games, and now we know Morgan is going for interviews at Castleford. I don't see they're the same in terms of distraction value at all.

PAUL M wrote:

As a pair KR's halves are better, no doubt. But to suggest with them on the pitch we would have won the game is pure fantasy for a poor troll.

It's a bit far-fetched, but not "pure fantasy" IMO. Our execution was very poor when we were in their 20 metre area. A couple of clever moves or decent kicks on a greasy pitch could have changed the game, possibly.

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:30 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Dobson was injured which affected them badly, likewise with Long. The pressure has been on Agar all season, much more than it has Morgan.

Not saying we should have not produced more as we should have done. I am talking about the comment that had Rovers halves played we would have won the game, it's garbage.

How on earth has the pressure being on Agar ...he has his own team and is fully backed by the club who gave him an extension!

Long has been injured for the last 2 seasons!...our best rugby we have played in the last god knows how many years was played over the Easter period without Longy!

Re: Best we can hope for is 8th : Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:32 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

On the injury front we've had a miracle season IMO and virtually no injuries apart from Long who we can't say we've missed desperately as he's never strung a decent set of games together for us. For Rovers, everything revolves round Dobson with Newton their 2nd most important player and their win ratio without them was testament to this. You can't compare the humiliation of the Mason saga and associated de-registration of Dobson to any "trauma" for us. We binned off Tansey but got Phelps. Gleeson was pure opportunism that might have given us some upside, but hasn't.

In terms of the coach, all Agar has ever had from the club is 100% unshakeable support in the public domain. Hudgell's in the dressing room at Rovers more than the kitman, undermining the coach and giving public ultimatums of winning the next 4 games, and now we know Morgan is going for interviews at Castleford. I don't see they're the same in terms of distraction value at all.

It's a bit far-fetched, but not "pure fantasy" IMO. Our execution was very poor when we were in their 20 metre area. A couple of clever moves or decent kicks on a greasy pitch could have changed the game, possibly.

Lets get back to the point. Had Green/Dobson played we'd have won.

So a few week ago in similar conditions what did Rovers do at Leeds with their wonderful halves. I rest my case.