Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:08 pm  

ccs wrote: Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground. Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) - Other contrary behaviour", tribunal. http://staging.rugby-league.com/uploads ... y%2021.pdf I had it down as a reckless incident with a 2 match ban, but I did wonder if the lifting of an injured player off the ground would be looked at in a bad light and might occur a separate charge.

ccs wrote: Grade C, 3 matches for lifting the player off the ground. Grade D, "Behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) - Other contrary behaviour", tribunal. http://staging.rugby-league.com/uploads ... y%2021.pdf I had it down as a reckless incident with a 2 match ban, but I did wonder if the lifting of an injured player off the ground would be looked at in a bad light and might occur a separate charge.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:10 pm  

8 matches at a guess

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:13 pm  

Also points out that Wynne did literally nothing wrong and was given a yellow card for no reason (which we already knew).

[Chris71]

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:15 pm  

scarrie wrote:

Laughable

Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.

The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.

Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.

So what recourse of action can we expect form the RFL for the incorrect decision to not only penalise Wynn but to also issue a yellow card? As usual nothing will be done and the RFL will just bury their heads and they wonder why a lot of fans think the sport is corrupt.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:18 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.

The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.

Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.

So Hurrel committed the exact same offence that both Austin and Dwyer have been sin binned and for and received a match ban in recent weeks, and he gets nothing. Absolute loving joke this sport.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:25 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Indeed and they've actually shown how inept the match official and VR were during the game by stating Wynn didn't lift Welsby into a dangerous position and it was Welsby himself that caused it. So Wynn and Hull were not just unfairly given a penalty against them but also had a player yellow carded for no reason at all. So should we call this a deliberate attempt affect the outcome of the game by the officials? The officials clearly got it wrong as the on field ref didn't call it at the time, it was called by the VR who ruled it such.

The RFL and so called disciplinary are a joke and so incompetent its laughable and then they wonder why the sport is dying on its backside.

Yet Hurrell according to the panels wording commits 'Dangerous Contact – A defending player makes contact with an opponent after the ball hasbeen released by an opponent in a vulnerable position which causes flexion to the head, neck or spinal column on an attacking player, which poses an unacceptable risk of injury to that player' yet only gets a Grade A and 0 match penalty notice.

So what recourse of action can we expect form the RFL for the incorrect decision to not only penalise Wynn but to also issue a yellow card? As usual nothing will be done and the RFL will just bury their heads and they wonder why a lot of fans think the sport is corrupt.

Regarding Konrad, do you remember Dean Hadley copping a three match ban in a Derby a few years back, for the offence of shoving someone in a vulnerable position, I’m no conspiracy merchant, but as I posted last week, the recent clampdown on players discipline only seems pertinent to certain clubs.

[Chris71]

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:29 pm  

Hasbag wrote:

So Hurrel committed the exact same offence that both Austin and Dwyer have been sin binned and for and received a match ban in recent weeks, and he gets nothing. Absolute loving joke this sport.

Exactly its a joke as the officials and RFL Disciplinary just aren't even handed nor consistent the only consistency they have is in inconsistency.

Reckon Gale will be given at least 8 games as a example despite his previous good record which only seems to count if you play for St's, Leeds or Wigan.

Pity they don't charge Welsby with a grade C for 'behaving in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) –
Other contrary behaviour' as that was clear as day he played for the penalty and feigned being hurt.

Also the wording on Matty Lees charge in that he only had eyes on the ball so is that a defence every player can use as if so surely Gale only had eyes on the ball but only made contact at the last moment Lomax's leg suddenly appeared in front of him.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:30 pm  

I love the James Roby one.

Charge Detail:
Player is wrapping the ball. Opponent dips head. Contact is head to arm

Like to see a player from a Yorkshire club get the same treatment.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:33 pm  

Chris71 wrote:

Pity they don't charge Welsby with a grade C for 'behaving in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game (includes Dangerous Contact) –.

That’s clearly not cheating if you’re a Saints player.

Re: St Helens Pre Match Chat : Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:35 pm  

This what the panel said...

Player is not lifted into a dangerous position. Player holds a leg in a stationery tackle.
Opponent contributes and rolls himself to the floor

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