Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:56 pm  

GODS UNDERTAKER wrote:

as it sends the very clearest of messages to the existing squad and builds a code of conduct and work ethic into the youngsters coming through!!

Im not sure it does, Do you believe that if Raynor was 2 or 3 years younger and we didnt have the likes of Briscoe and Hall at the club the decision would have been made right now? Raynor has had off the field problems throughout his career and I have no doubt on some of these ocassions the club would have been within there rights to terminate his contract or even if not, he has had plenty of contract extensions. I think its just a case with everything considered, his age, recent injuries, the younger players who can play his position and of course his court case probaablly the biggest factor I just feel the club think he is simply not worth having on a contract anymore and its in the clubs best interests, I dont think its a moral decision and had he had more to offer Im not sure the decision would have been made.

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:58 pm  

jordanp wrote:

Im not sure it does, Do you believe that if Raynor was 2 or 3 years younger and we didnt have the likes of Briscoe and Hall at the club the decision would have been made right now? Raynor has had off the field problems throughout his career and I have no doubt on some of these ocassions the club would have been within there rights to terminate his contract or even if not, he has had plenty of contract extensions. I think its just a case with everything considered, his age, recent injuries, the younger players who can play his position and of course his court case probaablly the biggest factor I just feel the club think he is simply not worth having on a contract anymore and its in the clubs best interests, I dont think its a moral decision and had he had more to offer Im not sure the decision would have been made.

Youre exactly right. It's the correct strategic business decision to make at exactly the right time.

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:57 pm  

barton baird wrote:

I would like to say thank you to Raynor for the past seasons he has given to the club.

ill echo that, cheers gaz, good luck for the future, your going to need it pal!!

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:42 pm  

I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:21 pm  

Brasil Fan wrote:

I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes

With respect, racially aggravated assault and an alledged 14 counts of counterfeiting and fraud can hardly be constituted as silly mistakes.

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:27 pm  

Brasil Fan wrote:

I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes

He avoided a sentance the lasttime he was in court by the skin of his teeth and he goes and does something else....he deserves all he gets.

FWIW...I thought he was a Jason Robinson wannabe and didnt have half the talent.....injury prone and a liability in the air as well as his bloody off-loads in our 2omt area.

Another bad apple out of the club....a good player yes...but not a great player for our club.

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:23 pm  

Brasil Fan wrote:

We can all make silly mistakes

confession time is it mate

Re: Raynor??? : Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:20 pm  

Hutchie wrote:

confession time is it mate

Most people just don't get found out for them!

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:09 am  

fc baldy wrote:

He avoided a sentance the lasttime he was in court by the skin of his teeth and he goes and does something else....he deserves all he gets.

FWIW...I thought he was a Jason Robinson wannabe and didnt have half the talent.....injury prone and a liability in the air as well as his bloody off-loads in our 2omt area.Another bad apple out of the club....a good player yes...but not a great player for our club.

are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 am  

gary-hfc wrote:

are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%

I concur!