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| Quote The games afoot="The games afoot"Spot on that and il throw Macintosh into the ring as well…seemed after the forward pass we went off the boil big time and apart from one bit of class for browns try…that was it….I don’t like to bag players who play this game but Okunbor is poor as for discipline,still a problem but I couldn’t work out what some was for tbh.'"
Game of big moments, Brown scores that and we win by 20 plus IMO.
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| Quote mwindass="mwindass"Really lucky to get anything out of that. The second half was pathetic, we're by far the thickest team in the league.
Feels like more of a loss tbf'"
Yep, think most had our fears in off season, but was hoping they wouldn't come true, seems they are.
Best we can hope for is 10th, which we will battle with Cas for.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Game of big moments, Brown scores that and we win by 20 plus IMO.'"
Was the proverbial 12 point swing
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| Quote The games afoot="The games afoot"Was the proverbial 12 point swing'"
Think if Martin holds onto the ball we win easier too.
Really weird game, will have to watch it back(or maybe not), but did London ever look like scoring apart from kicks and the intercept.
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| I'm hoping Trueman can come back and steer us about.
He's got 7 on his back but Nu Brown isn't the answer to our half back woes.
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| Totally got out of jail today, any other team would've comfortably beaten us.
Really laboured performance lacking any sort of structure which has to be a real worry with Truman out for another couple of months.
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| A win is a win as they say but by god we got out of jail today and yet again was all down to our own doing.
Thought Russell and Bullock actually showed up some of our players and pity nobody else ran it in like Matty.
We look a poor side and not helped by our pedestrian line speed in both attack and defence.
Nu Brown is just not a halfback and would be better deployed at 9 for me. Just don’t understand the recruitment signing Houghton and Nu Brown when both are very similar and hookers especially when we needed and still need a specialist halfback. At least Balmforth has shown he has some speed and guile about his game and it’s that we are lacking yet doesn’t get a look in. So either give Balmforth game time or promote Charles until Trueman is back, N Brown is wasted in the half.
Though Staveley, Jack Brown & Ashworth were good along with Ligi though he could have cost us the game with that stupid offload. Okunbor was better but still some way off the performance level considered good enough in SL. Thought Walker also had a good game Smith and McIntosh put a decent shift in too.
We are lacking a leader on the field no question and the amount of dumb rugby/decisions is ridiculous.
Really not sure if Smith has it to turn us around.
All in all we knew we weren’t going to be great this season but my god we are shocking and just look a disorganised rabble.
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| Quote mwindass="mwindass"I'm hoping Trueman can come back and steer us about.
He's got 7 on his back but Nu Brown isn't the answer to our half back woes.'"
Yeah, doesn't quite work does it, he does some good things, but just not in a halfback way, think he has to be at 13 or 9, Hoy back in or start Charles.
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| Well that was fun. We score from Walker break game over. But no this is Hull. Second half was poor. Maybe you can't see it on TV but our wingers need to keep out a bit more. Russell played well but if I was the opposition I would kick high to him all day. Houghton justified his spot but there lies the problem as brown isnt a half. Missed Hoy IMO. But a wins a win..Oh to be a supporter of FC
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Think if Martin holds onto the ball we win easier too.
Really weird game, will have to watch it back(or maybe not), but did London ever look like scoring apart from kicks and the intercept.'"
No they didn’t,they are a poor team tbh and looked clueless at times,we didn’t look good either but we looked like we could play.
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| Terrible performance, we look like a championship team. Prior to today London scored 1 try in 2 games, today they scored 5, if they had a kicker they'd have won
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| Spine has to be
Walker
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| Great work by Smith to back himself at the end there. Something we’ve missed for a long time.
Tried really hard to lose that one and I don’t think there’s much to be gained from a full dissection. Win’s a win.
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| Quote The games afoot="The games afoot"No they didn’t,they are a poor team tbh and looked clueless at times,we didn’t look good either but we looked like we could play.'"
Despite us been lucky, I'd say that we were still the best side and the stats I'm sure back it up, their kicking game overall was outstanding. Not something to brag about though beating a team of that quality (as I said pre game, there have all the odds against them)
Would love to know the percentage of ex players who score against us.
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| Would have no complaints if we had lost today. A win is a win....but....
London came with belief they could beat us, we have to be thankful they missed 3 conversions I guess.
It shouldn't take 75 minutes for a team to show more enthusiasm in the last few minutes of a game than they did all match.
Another solid performance from Staveley probably the bright spot.
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| Quote The games afoot="The games afoot"Won’t we win another game then?'"
On that showing no.
Even Castleford are a lot better organised team than we are
I agree with Smiggs apart from making us into the most undiciplined team in S/L for the second successive season,Smith has done nothing with this squad either in structure,attack or defence.
He is known by HKR fans as tinkering Tony.Last week with Smith and Hoy in the halfs and Brown at nine we looked better despite the loss, yet just to bring Houghton back he moves players around and drops Balmforth who seriously has to wonder what he has to do to get into the 17.
We know Houghtion is solid but offers no threat from acting half,so we have to play Brown at nine.
For me the clocks ticking for Smith
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| We showed something different in attack today but kick defence was woeful. Matty Russel had the most energy running the ball in and was a refreshing change to the standard plodding forward. Last season we would have lost that game so credit to the players for playing till the end. I will take any win at the moment and even a poor win has to be a confidence boost for the players.
I was mystified by some of the calls from the ref today for and against us, will watch it back later.
Also credit to the handful of London fans they made plenty of noise in the North stand whereas our fans were flat for most of the match.
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| If Tony smith didn't have his reputation and this was an inexperienced Aussie coaching us for the same amount of time Smith has, his position would be looking increasingly untenable. We're regressing compared to how we were under Hodgson, discipline is terrible and too many dumb plays like watching the ball bounce out from kickoff
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| Think we need to take the positives from what was a very trying nervy afternoon
1: We scored
2: We won (by playing a get out of jail card!!)
3: Think that's it!
We all knew, in our hearts, it was going to be a year when our faith is tested but, based on what we have seen so far, it doesn't look like there are going to be too many highlights for us to cheer!!
I haven't felt this downbeat about where the club is going since 1999, these are dark days indeed and we desperately need a boost from somewhere, but heaven knows where it will come from 
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| Quote Steve0="Steve0"If Tony smith didn't have his reputation and this was an inexperienced Aussie coaching us for the same amount of time Smith has, his position would be looking increasingly untenable. We're regressing compared to how we were under Hodgson, discipline is terrible and too many dumb plays like watching the ball bounce out from kickoff'"
Smith hasnt had the budget the others have had, not really sure what people are expecting. Hes being told to bring and develop our own players, something he is doing and you cant throw them all in at once. Hes also inherited a squad that has players with contracts they shouldnt have.
I think some of you have short memories, im under no illusions we will finish low but young players are starting to break into the mold.
Yes today was terrible but they won and this team will get better when players return. Getting rid of Smith will solve nothing. Bout time the supporters realised whats trying to be achieved here and your going to have to show patience. Forget about the previous coaches, Smith has a totally different task.
Take pride that players like Staveley, Charles and Martin are not looking out of place. Last week Gardiner, Litten and Balmforth, these are the future.
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| Quote hull2524="hull2524"Well that was fun. We score from Walker break game over. But no this is Hull. Second half was poor. Maybe you can't see it on TV but our wingers need to keep out a bit more. Russell played well but if I was the opposition I would kick high to him all day. Houghton justified his spot but there lies the problem as brown isnt a half. Missed Hoy IMO. But a wins a win..Oh to be a supporter of FC'"
Not sure I agree that Houghton justified his spot as think Nu Brown the far better option at 9. Think we are back to changing the team just to accommodate Houghton at 9. Not saying Houghton is poor just think that we’d be better with Brown at 9 with Balmforth on the bench and Hoy in the halves. Poor recruitment by Smith and the club to give Houghton another deal when we’d signed Smith and Nu Brown whilst having Balmforth also.
As some else has said as much as TS is experienced the clock must be ticking soon as we simply are not progressing or look like we are progressing under his tenure.
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| Quote pmarrow="pmarrow"Smith hasnt had the budget the others have had, not really sure what people are expecting. Hes being told to bring and develop our own players, something he is doing and you cant throw them all in at once. Hes also inherited a squad that has players with contracts they shouldnt have.
I think some of you have short memories, im under no illusions we will finish low but young players are starting to break into the mold.
Yes today was terrible but they won and this team will get better when players return. Getting rid of Smith will solve nothing. Bout time the supporters realised whats trying to be achieved here and your going to have to show patience. Forget about the previous coaches, Smith has a totally different task.
Take pride that players like Staveley, Charles and Martin are not looking out of place. Last week Gardiner, Litten and Balmforth, these are the future.'"
We're still a full time team and should be doing the basics better, London are part time, had 8 players out and almost beat us
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Yeah, doesn't quite work does it, he does some good things, but just not in a halfback way, think he has to be at 13 or 9, Hoy back in or start Charles.'"
Morgan Smith has been out best half this season. On reflection it seems an odd signing if we're carry on trying to play Nu in the halves.
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| Ok well let's look at the positives amongst the poor performance. Walker is class at FB. Martin if he keeps progressing will be a good winger. Smith looks to be a good bargain buy. Staverly again if progresses will be a very good Second row for us. Russell and Bullock did well. Ashworth good buy. Oh yea and I had a nice chicken tea
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| Putting Tony Smith under more scuritiny from now.
I take into account we've hardly had a good roll of the dice this season and the squad has problems many years in the making, but I expected to see at least one aspect of our game to improve but we are instead weaker than we were under Hodgson. Time for this supposed coaching legend to show what he's made of not just some media freindly soundbites.
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