Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:22 am  

gary-hfc wrote:

are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%

Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.

[Kosh]

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:25 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.

Agreed. Up until the injury to his toe Raynor was, IMO, the best British winger around.

Makes it all the more stupid for him to have put all that in jeopardy.

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:36 am  

gary-hfc wrote:

are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%

Errr yes i am serious........he had a lot of problems under high ball... a weakness we have had for a while.....i can think of numerous occasions he has been out-jumped....there is a rea when to off-load and its not our 20mtr area whilst trying to clear lines......what has knocker and crooks got to do with raynor...i know what your trying to say but i was never fussed on Raynor and thought he was over-rated but we all have our opinions on players.......i dont think he will be missed in all honesty.

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:14 am  

fc baldy wrote:

Errr yes i am serious........he had a lot of problems under high ball... a weakness we have had for a while.....i can think of numerous occasions he has been out-jumped....there is a rea when to off-load and its not our 20mtr area whilst trying to clear lines......what has knocker and crooks got to do with raynor...i know what your trying to say but i was never fussed on Raynor and thought he was over-rated but we all have our opinions on players.......i dont think he will be missed in all honesty.

He did most things pretty well including taking a high ball. He was reliable and a grafter. He scored some good tries but for me never quite lived up to his hype though that's not his fault. Perhaps his biggest on field fault was not running straight. Maybe if he'd gone straight in more ways than one he'd have been a better player and still here!

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:41 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.

Agreed. Raynor fit would still be the best british winger around. What a fool he's been.

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:45 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.

very much agree ....shame to lose a player like gaz as when fit very much an asset to the team..IMO

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:27 pm  

Mild mannered Janitor wrote:

I certainly do not condone what Raynor is alleged to have done, but if you really think he was on mega bucks playing RL, then you need to get a reality check.

dont talk bollox, he was on a whole lot more than most ordinary folk thats for sure and I have a lot of staff and friends on a lot less than he was a year that dont feel the need to allegedly boost their income with ill gotten gains...
very very poor show from an rL icon, if true he deserves the little room with bubba!!

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:29 pm  

Brasil Fan wrote:

I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes

Silly Mistake I call it banged to rights personally!!

Re: Raynor??? : Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:30 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

With respect, racially aggravated assault and an alledged 14 counts of counterfeiting and fraud can hardly be constituted as silly mistakes.

glad to be rid, was lucky to get another chance after the last case!!

Re: Raynor??? : Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:41 pm  

Kosh wrote:

Agreed. Up until the injury to his toe Raynor was, IMO, the best British winger around.

Makes it all the more stupid for him to have put all that in jeopardy.

Indeed, especially as injuries permitting he could still be one the best around for a few more years, he is really quick off the mark but his game never relied on pace over long distances, great dummy half runner, great upper body strengh and footwork get his head screwed on and could still do a job for someone.