Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:33 pm  

Boardwalkempire2 wrote:

Will have to sit through a record home defeat next week. Saints win by 60+
Only reason I am going is to applaud Mini and Manu.
The 17 players putting that shirt on are mostly seasoned pros. They should need little coaching or motivation.
I would rather see us field our reserve team and let them have a dig than watch the current dross.

Why applaud just Mini & Sika? Are they not a part of the "current dross"? What about Washbrook, Paea & Logan who are also leaving?

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:45 pm  

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Wilde 3 wrote:

Ive heard a rumour Radford is considering an assistant position in the NRL. His Mrs likes the idea of Australia but it's about their kids

What a Wilde rumour

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:00 pm  

Keiththered wrote:

He may well win the GF for FC but not with the present squad. There would be quite a few leaving fairly sharpish or playing in the reserves.

I'm genuinely interested to get an outsider's view if that is your genuine opinion. Which players from our 2020 squad are not good enough?

We have genuine pace and power in the backs. The halves compliment eachother well, and in Kelly you have one of the genuine stars of SL. Connor is petulant but undoubtedly talented, Wane would get more out of him imo. The pack is big and aggressive without being slow and plodding. Houghton needs to up his game, but again he has shown himself a very capable player in the past. Shaul is what he is. Either we need to swap him for Connor or adjust our gameplan to suit him better.

I aren't saying we are a team of superstars. We have filler in there just like every team does. But imo the squad has all the ingredients to be a genuine GF threat. But the whole is way less than the sum of all the parts. That says that the coach doesn't know how to get the best out of what he has got.

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:21 pm  

Having been to all but one of Hull FC's home games, and watching as a neutral I am of the opinion that a change of coach would help. The plays are so predictable it's so easy for the opposition to read. Ellis, giant of a player he may have been is clearly past his best. Taylor has mastered catching a ball and runninga few yards but so very rarely offloads, Jake Connor, if allowed to play his game is excellent, it's no wonder he gets annoyed when being stifled by the game plan. I.E. 5 drives and a kick, not many players are running on to the ball but waiting for it to come to them. Hull FC have some great centres and good wingers so why not try and get the ball to them? OK so Radford was in charge to win two Challenge Cups, but watching him celebrate them it was as if he had done it personnally. He seems to want his players to play how he did, get the ball run a few yards then stand with his hands on his knees. Adam Pearson has done well bringing money to the club, but doesn't seem to have a rugby brain. As for the Stadium it is one of the best, it's the crowd that dictate the atmosphere, if they had exciting open play to cheer, so very often a few away supporters can outsing etc. the home supporters.

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:44 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

There aren't enough external influences in the coaching team.

The fact McCracken who was the coach at East Hull with Radford is now on the coaching staff just proves that there is a reluctance to look outside of his close circle of friends from Hull.

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:13 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

How many times have we conceded 40 points in the last 2 seasons?

Last night was the 12th time in three seasons. Sixth time this season alone.

As a comparison we conceded six between 2014 and 2016.

This season's six matches the total in Peter Gentle's first season (2012).

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:31 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

As I've just said on the VT - put Wane in charge of your squad from next season and you'd win the GF within two years.

I've got massive respect for wane. And as a wire fan I was quite sick of him s
Winning grand finals against us with inferior players! I just dont think he would be anywhere near as effective at any club besides Wigan.
Still a top drawer coach though.

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:35 pm  

I thought Wane was touting for an Aussie job ?

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:24 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

As I've just said on the VT - put Wane in charge of your squad from next season and you'd win the GF within two years.

Then how come Wane couldn't out coach Radford in the 2016 CC semi or the 2017 CC final?

Re: Radford out : Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:28 pm  

giddyupoldfella wrote:

Then how come Wane couldn't out coach Radford in the 2016 CC semi or the 2017 CC final?

Too busy planning some grand final wins