Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:15 am  

mwindass wrote:

How much return on investment do you think Hudgell, Davies, mcManus, Danson etc get? It just doesn't happen running a club

That’s exactly the point, it’s next to impossible to be successful in this climate organically without a rich owner or sugar daddy willing to literally throw money away with little or no chance of a financial return. I’m still hearing that AP will be sticking around as the majority shareholder. Maybe he’s more savvy then we think and has suddenly managed to persuade a group of millionaires with no emotional connection to the club or even the City (some people on SM are actually saying billionaires) to pump a load of money in, pay off the debts and and make us successful for him to benefit down the line but I’m skeptical that he’s that great a businessman.

I’ve literally seen people talking about building stadiums and stuff. Like I say any ‘cash injection’ is very welcome and it looks like under Myler money is being spent much more wisely as it stands anyway but just don’t see the fairytale people are hoping for. This is a fanbase that allows itself to be convinced every 3 years for the past 25 that Mally Walker is buying the club. Any ‘investment’ that keeps the club afloat and allows us to spend as a normal SL club would be a huge win at the moment for me.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:27 am  

Social media is of course renowned for its accurate and reasonable takes on everything....
The reality, as always, will be far more modest. I suspect just paying off any loans and injecting a few hundred grand to pay some marquee wages or the extra backroom staff would make the world of difference.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:36 am  

If they are a rugby man and want to pwn a club and have the job of bring successful I could someone investing and not looking for money back.

A couple of million to buy the club and 1m a year investment is nothing to someone like Thirkill, it won't even make a dent into his money.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:39 am  

Nobody knows anything and everything should be treated as speculation and theory until an official announcement.

Just for example, the recent Serious About Rugby League article on the subject carried the headline "Hull FC takeover state of play as prospective investor visits training ground" and carried the sentence "Multiple sources have indicated that the parties are close to an agreement and could even be in a position to make an announcement about the proposed takeover as early as next week." so the author of that certainly seems to think it's a takeover rather than investment. I've always been quite sceptical about SARL in the past but note that the author in question is Will Jackson who used to be the Hull FC reporter at the HDM. I would imagine that he's still got contacts/sources at the club and may be somewhat in the know about what is happening.

But again, I go back to my first sentence and emphasise that's just me speculating and theorising.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:24 am  

Well Thirkill has been at training

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:43 am  

Dave K. wrote:

Well Thirkill has been at training

I've heard he's our new centre

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:50 am  

mwindass wrote:

I've heard he's our new centre

Too quick

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:45 am  

HU8HFC wrote:

Been through an awful lot off the pitch in last couple years, i'm not excusing his condition at Catalans but I think there is at least some understanding from the club as to why he got that way.

Hopefully been back home, in a better place mentally and surrounded/supported by the club we will see the best of him, of which on his day he's one of the very best in the comp.

Exactly this. I've been through something similar over the last three years and even though your not the cheater you lose everything and have to rebuild your life and it ain't bloody easy but I got through it and like to think I'm a better person for it. Jordan will hopefully be the same

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:04 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

If they are a rugby man and want to pwn a club and have the job of bring successful I could someone investing and not looking for money back.

A couple of million to buy the club and 1m a year investment is nothing to someone like Thirkill, it won't even make a dent into his money.

It also could be a relatively small price to pay to set your son in law with a decent business in the field that he knows. I know the current TV deal is a shambles but even if that improves there’s only a handful of clubs with a potential fanbase to ever be self sufficient IMO. Hull, Leeds, Wigan, St’s and possibly Wire and Rovers are the ones you’d say, and we are the only ones out of that group that are actively for sale at the moment so I’d say it would make sense on loads of levels if he bought the club.

What I can’t get my head around is why he or anyone else would just invest money in a SL club (especially one that’s been ran as badly as ours) at the moment without wanting full control. Hopefully something is clarified soon to end all the speculation, I and I assume most of the fanbase will be over moon if it’s a complete fresh start under a new regime.

Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings : Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:08 pm  

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DSJ1983 wrote:

It also could be a relatively small price to pay to set your son in law with a decent business in the field that he knows. I know the current TV deal is a shambles but even if that improves there’s only a handful of clubs with a potential fanbase to ever be self sufficient IMO. Hull, Leeds, Wigan, St’s and possibly Wire and Rovers are the ones you’d say, and we are the only ones out of that group that are actively for sale at the moment so I’d say it would make sense on loads of levels if he bought the club.

What I can’t get my head around is why he or anyone else would just invest money in a SL club (especially one that’s been ran as badly as ours) at the moment without wanting full control. Hopefully something is clarified soon to end all the speculation, I and I assume most of the fanbase will be over moon if it’s a complete fresh start under a new regime.

I think he will have full control, if not straight away, in the long term.