Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:48 pm  

DSJ1983 wrote:

I really liked the Cartwright appointment on paper as he seems to tick most of the boxes of what we need at the club. My only worry was that sometimes Aussies with no experience of the league really underestimate the competition, I know he did a season as a player but that was 30 years ago. Maybe he’s just massively underestimating what’s needed? Sezer just isn’t a player that’s anything special in SL, in fact he’s one of those rare players that’s seemingly better suited to the NRL and how it’s structured. Having him tied to a two year deal at 33 taking a quota spot is just absolute madness. A lesser extent Cust too, I feel he could offer a bit more but on the evidence so far he’s not been anything special.

Maybe the coach has just been allowed to make a couple of poor calls? Maybe he’s been offered better players but stubbornly wants people who he’s worked with? That’s just a huge guess on my part,

but I’m not convinced players refuse to join because we’ve had a couple of poor seasons. It’s not stopped Wakey recruiting decent players. We’ve either not got the money or maybe just still making poor recruitment decisions

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Agree. On a slightly separate note I wonder if Wests are paying part of his wages as Sezer had a contract option for next season.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:49 pm  

DSJ1983 wrote:

I really liked the Cartwright appointment on paper as he seems to tick most of the boxes of what we need at the club. My only worry was that sometimes Aussies with no experience of the league really underestimate the competition, I know he did a season as a player but that was 30 years ago. Maybe he’s just massively underestimating what’s needed? Sezer just isn’t a player that’s anything special in SL, in fact he’s one of those rare players that’s seemingly better suited to the NRL and how it’s structured. Having him tied to a two year deal at 33 taking a quota spot is just absolute madness. A lesser extent Cust too, I feel he could offer a bit more but on the evidence so far he’s not been anything special.

Maybe the coach has just been allowed to make a couple of poor calls? Maybe he’s been offered better players but stubbornly wants people who he’s worked with? That’s just a huge guess on my part, but I’m not convinced players refuse to join because we’ve had a couple of poor seasons. It’s not stopped Wakey recruiting decent players. We’ve either not got the money or maybe just still making poor recruitment decisions.

Coaches like to have players they can trust around them. So maybe Cartwright thinks Cust and Sezer will be good for the dressing room.

One bright spot in this sea of gloom is Cartwright has the longest build up to taking the job I can remember (possibly since Kear knew he would take over from McRae) and also has a unique position of having his son in camp feeding back what's going on. Whereas Hodgson and Smith took the job late and were stuck with most of the signings their predecessors agreed to (absolute no excuses for some of the useless players those two signed though)

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 8:50 pm  

Once upon a time you dressed so fine

You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you?

People’d call, say, “Beware doll, you’re bound to fall”

You thought they were all kiddin’ y

You used to laugh about

Everybody that was hangin’ out

Now you don’t talk so loud

Now you don’t seem so proud

About having to be scrounging for your next meal

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:01 pm  

His Bobness wrote:

Once upon a time you dressed so fine

You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you?

People’d call, say, “Beware doll, you’re bound to fall”

You thought they were all kiddin’ y

You used to laugh about

Everybody that was hangin’ out

Now you don’t talk so loud

Now you don’t seem so proud

About having to be scrounging for your next meal

"When I was down you just stood there grinning"

Don't blame you Bob. What goes around comes around.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:09 pm  

His Bobness wrote:

Once upon a time you dressed so fine

You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you?

People’d call, say, “Beware doll, you’re bound to fall”

You thought they were all kiddin’ y

You used to laugh about

Everybody that was hangin’ out

Now you don’t talk so loud

Now you don’t seem so proud

About having to be scrounging for your next meal

To be fair after witnessing your recent live performances it reminds me watching Hull FC. Had some great moments a few years ago but are now an embarrassment.

Time to hang up your harmonica.

[Chris71]

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:30 pm  

Have to say while Sezer is an improvement on what we have/had (which isn’t a difficult task) he would just be another signing of abject disappointment and disillusionment. Let’s be honest he’s not exactly ripped it up in SL & just see him being a signing of desperation. For me it would have made more sense to have offered Ben Reynolds a deal than Sezer.

Just fail to follow the logic of signing Sezer & Cust as neither are players to excite or whet the appetite of a very disgruntled fan base.

Other than Cartwright as Head Coach & Asiata the rest of the signings if we are to be brutally honest are average at best and again whilst an improvement it’s marginal.
Can anyone say hand on heart the recruitment so far is going to see us challenging any higher than 10th? I can’t.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:31 pm  

Cuddleclub wrote:

Agree with this, I just haven’t seen it with Charles yet I know he’s young etc but I think Martin and Moy are much better equipped to make it long term.

Charles is 18. Give the kid a chance

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:51 pm  

You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls ya, ya can't refuse
When ya ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose
You're invisible now, ya got no secrets to conceal

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:52 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Charles is 18. Give the kid a chance

You’re becoming a quite sensible poster this past week.
Well done.

Re: Shopping list for 2025 : Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:53 pm  

His Bobness wrote:

You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls ya, ya can't refuse
When ya ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose
You're invisible now, ya got no secrets to conceal

Bobness , think you need to cut back on the cider