Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:34 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

It is all about respect, Kearney had it in bagfulls because of the way he conducted his playing career, a role model professional. Who respects a player whose exploits are well publicised like Longys, too many to list.
I personally do not think Longy has grown up his public spats on his twitter feed defending Gleeson do not portray a mature adult tbh.
Not sure what your point is about the Milward comment, Milward was the coach, the role model. I would expect players do get off with cheerleaders but they are not the role models who are supposed to lead by example.

I think you are too hung up on holding people's past against them. Andrew Johns was a confirmed drug-user in his playing days but has worked in coaching with a few clubs now, Ellery Hanley went to prison and went on to a few successes as a coach, their past deeds don't mean they aren't respected by anyone. I'm not saying that Long will be a great coach, or even a good one, I just think it's wrong to state he won't be on the strength of a few stories and a twitter feed. Those who actually speak to him may find him to be very different than the impression you've formed.

My point about Millward was pretty much what you've just said. Acceptable behaviour is different for players/coaches, and Long will be smart enough to know that, so my point is that he'll know that he can't behave the way he has done in the past as a coach and will probably cease to do so.

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:34 pm  

R.B.A wrote:

Didnt Kearney fall from a balcony whilst drunk on the 1993 Kiwi tour?

Maybe not sure, but it hardly compares to Longys escapades does it

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:35 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

Longy is remembered more for his off filed antics as he is for those on

sorry, but that is bullshine, 3 time Lance Todd trophy winner.

I suggest you get the tea on.

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:37 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

You posted one of the most ridiculous comments ever just like you do if you think you are right, and believe me you have posted a few.You used a role model professional player who went on to coach and win a world club against Sean Long who is certainly not a professional role model.
If I had to employ a 2nd (ex player) it would be some-one like Kearney,or Swainey or even Webster who had gone through their careers displaying the kind of professionalism they would expect from their players.

My god you really are dramatic these days

We were talking coaches not role models. You said you are not interested in players who want to go into coaching. My point, which was very valid when you calm down was that Long is only doing exactly what Kearney has just done.

You have just been creaming yourself over Edwards but he did exactly what Long is doing.

If Long was being mentioned as our next head coach you would have a valid point but plenty of SL clubs go down the route of having an assistant who is a recently retired player. Examples would be Poaching at Wire, Lowes at Leeds, Cummings at Bulls, Webster at Hull etc. For you to say it's the wrong road if we want to challenge is silly, Tony Smith would agree.

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:37 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

I think you are too hung up on holding people's past against them. Andrew Johns was a confirmed drug-user in his playing days but has worked in coaching with a few clubs now, Ellery Hanley went to prison and went on to a few successes as a coach, their past deeds don't mean they aren't respected by anyone. I'm not saying that Long will be a great coach, or even a good one, I just think it's wrong to state he won't be on the strength of a few stories and a twitter feed. Those who actually speak to him may find him to be very different than the impression you've formed.

My point about Millward was pretty much what you've just said. Acceptable behaviour is different for players/coaches, and Long will be smart enough to know that, so my point is that he'll know that he can't behave the way he has done in the past as a coach and will probably cease to do so.

You may be right.....However if we troll back through the pages, my original point was I would not want him at FC and I stand by that.
For the record I was chatting to him in the sports bar a few weeks ago and he seemed a friendly man, it may work for him it may not, but personally I doubt he will set the coaching world alight.

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:38 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

My god you really are dramatic these days

We were talking coaches not role models. You said you are not interested in players who want to go into coaching. My point, which was very valid when you calm down was that Long is only doing exactly what Kearney has just done.

You have just been creaming yourself over Edwards but he did exactly what Long is doing.

If Long was being mentioned as our next head coach you would have a valid point but plenty of SL clubs go down the route of having an assistant who is a recently retired player. Examples would be Poaching at Wire, Lowes at Leeds, Cummings at Bulls, Webster at Hull etc. For you to say it's the wrong road if we want to challenge is silly, Tony Smith would agree.

Oh dear me

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:41 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

You may be right.....However if we troll back through the pages, my original point was I would not want him at FC and I stand by that.
For the record I was chatting to him in the sports bar a few weeks ago and he seemed a friendly man, it may work for him it may not, but personally I doubt he will set the coaching world alight.

I'm agree with what Standee said on this one, with the current coaching setup, no, if we got a good coach in who wanted him on board, I'd have no problem with it.

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:42 pm  

Marfa Manu wrote:

Oh dear me

Not literally hopefully, he's not the cutest on the block.

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:44 pm  

Also didn't kearney miss the start of the season trying to show off how much he could press in the gym ?

Re: More rumours! : Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:44 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Not literally hopefully, he's not the cutest on the block.

Your uncouth, I will debate/argue with any-one but there is really no need to write things like that on a board young people may read!