: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:50 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

Graeme Horne hasnt done anything to let the side down and has looked very exciting going forwards. .

Horne isn't what I would class as an exciting player. Relatively safe maybe but exciting he aint

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:52 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

Roberts is one of the fastest men playing the game. Richards is very quick when given open field. Carmont is the only one out of that 5 that i would class to not be extremely pacey.

I don't really know much about roberts but richards is a cart horse and is probably the quickest of the others you've listed

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:53 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Horne isn't what I would class as an exciting player. Relatively safe maybe but exciting he aint

Was only a couple of ankle taps off scoring some very exciting tries on Friday!

: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:57 pm  

Big Dave T wrote:

Was only a couple of ankle taps off scoring some very exciting tries on Friday!

There you go then, Hall would probably have chalked up his 1st 2 tries of the season if he'd been playing.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:31 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

There you go then, Hall would probably have chalked up his 1st 2 tries of the season if he'd been playing.

And if we're guessing i'd say that Hall would have probably missed some of the 20 tackles G Horne put in meaning Wigan would have scored 2 or 3 tries over the top of him!

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:32 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

I like mine to be good with ball in hand and good defensively. Graeme Horne hasnt done anything to let the side down and has looked very exciting going forwards. His defence is also a huge positive. I agree that Craig Hall is faster and will probably score more tries given the opportunities but he may also cost us games with his poor defence and positional play.
Whilst we are winning it would be difficult to justify dropping anyone tbh.

Wouldn't go that far. Calderwood was pretty starved of opportunities IMO, and the closest he got to scoring was trying to take on 3 Wigan players on the outside on the 3rd or 4th tackle. He had a good game, but not the kind of performance to make him undroppable IMO.

Celtic is as good an opportunity as any for Hall to get a run and see if he's improved his defence.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:33 am  

carl_spackler wrote:

Celtic is as good an opportunity as any for Hall to get a run and see if he's improved his defence.

But what has G Horne done to deserve dropping?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:40 am  

Big Dave T wrote:

But what has G Horne done to deserve dropping?

Who says players have to do something to deserve dropping? If you have a potentially better option, should you not pick them? If Crocker's VISA came through today and he arrived tomorrow, should Burnett keep his place ahead of him for this weekend? Or how about when Tony's fit, does Byrne retain his place instead? Raynor to be left out for Briscoe?

Drastic comparisons perhaps, but all I'm trying to say is that if it's done for the good of the team I don't see the problem. It's unfortunate for players to miss out sometimes, but picking somebody continuously just because they haven't had a howler isn't the way to go IMO.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:46 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I don't really know much about roberts but richards is a cart horse and is probably the quickest of the others you've listed

Disagree, Roberts is by far their fastest player. He is also probally in the top 5 speedsters in the league.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:55 am  

carl_spackler wrote:

Who says players have to do something to deserve dropping? If you have a potentially better option, should you not pick them? If Crocker's VISA came through today and he arrived tomorrow, should Burnett keep his place ahead of him for this weekend? Or how about when Tony's fit, does Byrne retain his place instead? Raynor to be left out for Briscoe?

Drastic comparisons perhaps, but all I'm trying to say is that if it's done for the good of the team I don't see the problem. It's unfortunate for players to miss out sometimes, but picking somebody continuously just because they haven't had a howler isn't the way to go IMO.

But who says Hall is the better option, thats not clear at the moment so Horne has to stay. The Crocker comparison is very clear. If Hall was an Oz international that too would be clear! Tony has also proven himself to be a class full back so thats pretty clear. Potential to be the better option also means he has the potential to be the worse option so why risk it when we dont need to?