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No way. They only won tonight because of the referee (That's according to Powell by the way).

Utterly classless from him. Needs to turn his team around before he gobs off about refs.
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We play a different game to Cas AND the performance by them was well below par, our forwards are still a match for Saints IF they are fit and healthy, it's whether we can put together a performance.

The question I posed still stands, do we play the squad players and let them have a bash at trying to pull off a shock or do we risk bringing back players from injury too early, not up to full match fitness and risk them getting injured (again) with a likely longer layoff effecting chances at the back end of the league, and indeed maybe not being able to perform at the level the squad player could due to the match fitness/still not fully recovered from injury?

Of course you go out to win the game but as with games throughout the season balancing when you bring back players even if they are an important part of the team has to be measured on the long term effects of the team overall as well as the health of the individual themselves.
Do we have a chance without Kelly and Sneyd + others, absolutely, there's always a chance of winning against the odds, do we bring players back not fully fit/not fully recovered, IMHO no we don't. There's a few weeks to go in any case and anything can happen between now and then.
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:
We play a different game to Cas AND the performance by them was well below par, our forwards are still a match for Saints IF they are fit and healthy, it's whether we can put together a performance.

The question I posed still stands, do we play the squad players and let them have a bash at trying to pull off a shock or do we risk bringing back players from injury too early, not up to full match fitness and risk them getting injured (again) with a likely longer layoff effecting chances at the back end of the league, and indeed maybe not being able to perform at the level the squad player could due to the match fitness/still not fully recovered from injury?

Of course you go out to win the game but as with games throughout the season balancing when you bring back players even if they are an important part of the team has to be measured on the long term effects of the team overall as well as the health of the individual themselves.
Do we have a chance without Kelly and Sneyd + others, absolutely, there's always a chance of winning against the odds, do we bring players back not fully fit/not fully recovered, IMHO no we don't. There's a few weeks to go in any case and anything can happen between now and then.


No, there are nine days.

There's no chance for Abdull, Bowden, Sneyd, Griffin, Talanoa and Tuimavave of course. Andy Last said that Kelly was possibly two weeks away so he's the only one who could potentially be 'risked' but even that looks unlikely.

Faraimo and Taylor will return next weekend.
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Scott Taylor was a guest on Danny Baker's show on 5 Live this morning and mentioned he hopes to be back next week. Turgut put a gym session photo on Instagram this morning of him after training with Faraimo, Carlos, Kelly, Downs, Litten.
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still think Kelly will play
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hull2524 wrote:
still think Kelly will play


So do I. I think it has always been the plan to have him ready for this one.

We are big underdogs whatever, but with Faraimo, Taylor and Kelly playing we at least have a shot imo.
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https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... nt-1614596

Anyone got the odds for Sunday's game? Certainly feels like we're massive underdogs.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... nt-1614596

Anyone got the odds for Sunday's game? Certainly feels like we're massive underdogs.
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https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-league-news/hull-fcs-dean-hadley-defiant-1614596

Anyone got the odds for Sunday's game? Certainly feels like we're massive underdogs.


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hull2524 wrote:
still think Kelly will play


He spoke to my dad at exelby on Friday and said it would be the Wigan game. Wanted him back sooner but he did some running on Friday and he was still in a bit of pain. If he plays versus Saints then it could be risking him further
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